[Rhodes22-list] Politics: joke and the wind surfer

[ed kroposki]

Michael:

	I will have to wait for that reply to sink in.  It may have been
above my head.  Maybe you were relaxing with an alcoholic beverage in hand?

	Consider that he may have been making a joke of your joke?  

	How is the boat doing?  All fixed?  What did Seaward have to say?
Or is that proprietary or confidential?

	Maybe you should reread Roger's dissertation on air foils and
stalls.  Maybe in there is a way to calculate the stress on stays?
Unfortunately, it has been almost 40 years since I had Calculus.  If he gave
us a program in basic, that would work in today's world.

Ed K
	

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Glen & Dorene
Barrera
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:33 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list; Stephen Staum
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics: joke and the wind surffer

:)

Glen

PS How is the boat doing?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
To: "Stephen Staum" <staum at earthlink.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics: joke and the wind surffer


> I wanted to respond to Stephen Staum earlier, but I was so busy, I simply
did not have the time. Nevertheless, what I need to say is
> so important, I knew I simply had to allocate a few minutes to write a
brief letter on the subject. One of my objectives is to
> protect the interests of the general public against the greed and unreason
of what I call malicious apostates. He yields to the
> mammalian desire to assert individuality by attracting attention.
Unfortunately, for Staum, "attract attention" usually implies
> "subject human beings to indignities". Think about how easy it's become
for shallow, gormless Stephen Staum clones to bad-mouth
> worthy causes. Do you really think that he can assuage the hungers of his
cat's-paws with servings of fresh scapegoats and get away
> with it, as Staum claims? Wake up! The purpose of this letter is far
greater than to prove to you how acrimonious and slaphappy
> Staum has become. The purpose of this letter is to get you to start
thinking for yourself, to start thinking about how each rung on
> the ladder of separatism is a crisis of some kind. Each crisis supplies an
excuse for him to condition the public -- or, more
> precisely, brainwash the public -- into believing that his activities are
on the up-and-up. That is the standard process by which
> abysmal fogeys create anomie.
>
> He says it is within his legal right to paint people of different races
and cultures as lewd alien forces undermining the coherent
> national will. Whether or not he indeed has such a right, there is another
side to the issue, so to speak. If Staum wants to
> complain, he should have an argument. He shouldn't just throw out the word
"anthropomorphical", for example, and expect us to be
> scared. He will damage the debate about this issue, because we will have
to spend lots of time correcting misunderstandings that are
> directly attributable to his publications. While improvident quacks claim
to defend traditional values, they actually peddle the
> snake oil of irritating neocolonialism. If you were to tell Staum that
there is considerable evidence to show that he is serious
> about wanting to acquire public acceptance of his paltry insinuations,
he'd just pull his security blanket a little tighter around
> himself and refuse to come out and deal with the real world.
>
> His oleaginous editorials leave the current power structure untouched
while simultaneously killing countless children through
> starvation and disease. Are these children Staum's enemies? This isn't
such an easy question to answer, but let me take a stab at
> it: I want to give you some background information about Staum. But first,
let me pose an abstract question. Where is Staum's
> integrity? To rephrase that question, what exactly is Staum's point? A
complete answer to that question would take more space than I
> can afford, so I'll have to give you a simplified answer. For starters,
Staum is too odious to read the writing on the wall. This
> writing warns that several things he has said have brought me to the
boiling point. The statement of his that made the strongest
> impression on me, however, was something to the effect of how the best way
to make a point is with foaming-at-the-mouth rhetoric and
> letters filled primarily with exclamation points. The next time someone
says that self-centered, myopic vagrants are more deserving
> of honor than our nation's war heroes, look that person right in the eye
and reply, "The Stephen Staum Foundation's latest report on
> catty obscurantism is filled with fabrications, half-truths, innuendo, and
guilt by association." His apple-polishers consider his
> claims a breath of fresh air. I, however, find them more like the fetid
odor of metagrobolism. Quite simply, one does not have to
> impose obtuse new restrictions on society just to satisfy some sort of
wretched drive for power in order to tell him where he can
> stick it. It is a cruel person who believes otherwise. Now for some
parting advice: Look at the facts. Analyze the arguments. Think
> about the motives of the people who are telling you that children should
belong to the state. And have confidence in yourself.
> Remember, I don't expect everyone to agree with me.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stephen Staum" <staum at earthlink.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 11:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics: joke and the wind surffer
>
>
> > What a nasty thing to do to someone.  Now this poor individual who needs
and
> > probably cannot afford new tires will have to blow the money on
senseless
> > tickets instead.  It figures that you are a Bush fan.  My daughter is in
> > middle school and judging how nasty young teenage girls can be you would
fit
> > right in.  At least they have youth and ignorance as an excuse.  What is
> > yours?  Why don't you find some productive volunteer work to do with
your
> > time or just go sailing.  I am sure that you will find this more
personally
> > satisfying.  SS
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 11:17 PM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Politics: joke and the wind surffer
> >
> >
> >> WORKING PEOPLE FREQUENTLY ASK RETIRED PEOPLE WHAT THEY DO TO MAKE THEIR
> > DAYS
> >> INTERESTING. WELL, LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE:
> >>
> >> I WENT TO THE STORE THE OTHER DAY. I WAS ONLY IN THERE FOR ABOUT 5
> > MINUTES.
> >>
> >> WHEN I CAME OUT THERE WAS A CITY COP WRITING OUT A PARKING TICKET.
> >>
> >>
> >> did any one see the new Kerry windsurfing ad, now that's funny, and I
> > suspect effective on many levels, some on the bush side has some
"talent" at
> > this :-)
> >>
> >> and a new jokes :-)
> >>
> >> I WENT UP TO HIM AND SAID, "COME ON, BUDDY, HOW ABOUT GIVING A SENIOR A
> >> BREAK?"
> >>
> >> HE IGNORED ME AND CONTINUED WRITING THE TICKET.
> >>
> >> I CALLED HIM A NAME. HE GLARED AT ME AND STARTED WRITING ANOTHER TICKET
> > FOR
> >> HAVING WORN TIRES.
> >>
> >> SO I CALLED HIM A WORSE NAME. HE FINISHED THE SECOND TICKET AND PUT IT
ON
> >> THE WINDSHIELD WITH THE FIRST. THEN HE STARTED WRITING A THIRD TICKET.
> >>
> >> THIS WENT ON FOR ABOUT 20 MINUTES. THE MORE I ABUSED HIM THE MORE
TICKETS
> > HE
> >> WROTE.
> >>
> >> I DIDN'T CARE. MY CAR WAS PARKED AROUND THE CORNER AND THIS ONE HAD A
> > BUMPER
> >> STICKER ON IT THAT SAID "ELECT KERRY - EDWARDS".
> >>
> >> I TRY TO HAVE A LITTLE FUN EACH DAY NOW THAT I'M RETIRED. IT'S
IMPORTANT
> > AT
> >> OUR AGE.
> >>
> >>  - from Carol Bagshaw
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