[Rhodes22-list] Terrorism vs. Radical Islam

[Herb Parsons]

I submit then, that it's an entirely "out of the blue" statement. At the
time of the crusades, Christianity was a VERY small religion. And, the
inquisition wasn't about Christianity, it was about Catholicism. They
were persecuting Christians as well.

However, i submit that even with that, your statistics are off. Keep in
mind, the Japenese considered the emperor to be a god.

>>> salm at mn.rr.com 9/27/2004 10:08:24 PM >>>
Herb,

Take into account the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition.  I don't
have
the numbers, but who has killed more in the name of God?  I put it to
you.

Slim

On 9/27/04 9:41 PM, "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:

> NO group? I take issue with that. What are your statistics, and
their
> source?
> 
>>>> salm at mn.rr.com 9/27/2004 7:51:01 PM >>>
> Hi Brad, comments below:
> 
> On 9/27/04 5:37 PM, "brad haslett" <flybrad at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> but when your religion
>> tells you to kill all who don't believe as you,
>> there's a problem.
> 
> Throughout Western history, no group has done this more than the
> Christians.
> 
> 
> (I used to train with the Saudi Air
>> pilots, Americans, and have heard all their stories
>> about the flights to LAX to re-whore the harem.
> 
> I know more than a few American rock and rollers who do the same
> thing.
> 
> 
> The Shah of Iran, despite his
>> faults, oversaw rapidly improving conditions for his
>> population. 
> 
> Brad, "..despite his faults..." is just not enough syllables.  It
> glosses
> over the atrocities committed, even sanctioned by the US.
> 
> 
> Taking a
>> chance on dying and perhaps the 40 to 60 virgins
>> (whatever) not being there won't seem nearly as
>> attractive when you can enjoy some of the comforts the
>> 21st century, running water for example.
> 
> So it's come down to running water now vs. virgins in the hereafter?
> Aren't
> there any other choices?
> 
> 
> You'll notice France
>> isn't taking any chances with them.  Have you followed
>> the news on how they are treating their own
>> substantial Muslim population?
> 
> By far, the most substantial religion in France is Catholicism, and
> they're
> playing that down as well.  The French have always been very
secular.
> 
> Slim
> 
>> 
>>> Guys, I hear what you are saying about the attitudes
>>> of Muslims on the street towards the United States.
>>> But, I have a hard time declaring this a war against
>>> Islam.
>>> 
>>> We're talking about the Fertile Crescent here, the
>>> cradle of civilization.  The folks in this area of
>>> the world were building great engineering marvels
>>> like the Ziggurat Pyramids, aqueducts, the Hanging
>>> Gardens of Babylon, & living in big cities when my
>>> ancestors in northern Europe were barely out of the
>>> stone age living in thatched huts.  These folks have
>>> a culture that goes back several millennia & gave us
>>> some of the 1st known written languages, the legal
>>> code of Hamurabi, as well as great literature such
>>> as the epic of Gilgamish.  To think that these
>>> people with their long tradition of engineering
>>> excellence, creativity, & scholarship would not be
>>> able to produce their own chemical & biological
>>> weapons given the amount of time & resources
>>> available is ridiculous at the very least & tends to
>>> smell like some sort of racial bias.  Anyone who
>>> discounts their capability does so at their own
>>> peril.
>>> 
>>> I think a lot of our problems with the Muslim world
>>> stem from our relationship with Israel & with a
>>> general frustration with the continuing bloodshed &
>>> chaos in the region.  Whether it's fixable is not
>>> clear at this point.
>>> 
>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>> S/V Dynamic Equilbrium
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