[Rhodes22-list] Politics - Spanish ain't got no "CH":... Ah, but some do.....

Jim White jdwhite at utpa.edu
Thu Sep 30 12:41:54 EDT 2004


Buen viento compadre


Nah...I'm not pulling your leg ("poking your eyes") (picando los ojos), nor 
am I screwing around (cagar el palo)....
Chiar (verb) = to cry, Oscuro (adj) = Obscured, dark, therefore, it is a 
contraction of two words, not uncommon. Perhaps they are local or regional 
words, most Spanish / English dictionaries fail to include real elements of 
everyday speech. Remember, Italian and Spanish are very similar languages.


There's quite a few ch words in Spanish though, words like "chubasco" (we 
haven't had of those here in a while, it's another word for hurricane, and 
I am praying that my fellow sailors in Florida and areas north of there 
have survived the recent onslaught of las tormentas OK),  Chupa = to suck 
(as in chupacabra = goatsucker. or perhaps in a slightly Clintonesque light 
"chupando la verga"), chinga (probably won't find that in El diccionario 
either, but most folks know the vernacular chinge la madre = motherf______, 
chingone = big MF), Chiflar (ado) = to whistle or to be fussy. Chango = 
monkey, Chiste = joke, and so on.

Sorry for the confusion, but this word is used (at least here on the 
border) with the meaning I described.


No te chifles amigo. Y entonces por horita, voy a regrasar al trabajo.

  Que le valle bien.
jw

Jim White
(Jaime Blanco)
Le Menagerie


At 11:26 AM 09/30/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>Jim White wrote:
> > In Spanish the word "chiaroscuro" means literally "crying in the dark".....
> > Jim White
> > Le Menagerie
>
>Perhaps, but there is no mention of the word in the
>Diccionario General Ilustrado de la Lengua Espanola.
>It is also absent from the Harper Collins Spanish-
>English Dictionary.
>
>This is not unexpected, as the Spanish language has
>very few words that begin with the letters "ch".
>
>It may be that in the mixed Spanish, Mayan, Incan,
>Mexican and Americanized argot of the Southwest
>area, there is a corruption of the word with
>unhappy connotations, but the word originated in
>Italy in the 1600s, according to Merriam-Webster.
>
>Ot you may be just pulling my leg.
>
>In any case, I explained what I meant in a recent
>post.
>
>/Bob Skinner
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