[Rhodes22-list] boat full of water, please help

Mon Aug 1 09:18:36 EDT 2005

Luis,

Glad to here you got your Rhodes on the water. Way to go! It looks like you 
need to get a little more tension on your jib halyard and/or fore shroud. It 
looks like there is some sag. It might just be the angle .....

Alan,

I for one would rather work on a boat then take a second job at Burger King. 
Good luck with your restoration. Some of these projects get finished, some 
don't.

Wally

>From: Luis Guzman <trpclman at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boat full of water, please help
>Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 04:02:17 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Alan,
>
>I own a 1975 Rhodes Continental. This has been a proect boat that needed 
>some repair.
>
>I did not know anything about boat repairs when I took on the project, but 
>with help from the  the list and other experienced sailors I have gotten it 
>to the point that I can sail it. I still need to do some work on the cabin, 
>but that can wait for now.
>
>I had to build a new rudder head, put a new tiller (it was missing), 
>install a new centerboard (it was also missing), replace the stays, fix 
>leaky ports, replace both winches, and give it a bottom job (I paid 
>somebody else to do this).
>
>If you are a little bit handy and are willing to learn, you can fix your 
>Rhodes.
>
>Enclosed are pictures of my Rhodes taken last Saturday on the Sarasota Bay.
>
>I'm the one sitting on the  starboard side, my wife Julia is in the 
>background, and my 12 year old is the one fishing from the stern.
>
>Luis Guzman
>
>
>Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>Alan,
>
>The posts you are getting from the most experienced members of this list
>are trying to tell you that you are way out of your depth on this project.
>
>You will not be on the water by your projected date.
>
>The project will cost you far more than you anticipate.
>
>The boat will not sail properly.
>
> >From many of your questions, it would appear there will be profound
>safety issues.
>
>I would join the voices of those who recommend spending $250 on a used
>Sunfish and getting out on the water next week. Sailing a Sunfish is
>much more fun than rebuilding a Rhodes. In fact, Sailing a Sunfish can
>be more fun than Sailing a Rhodes if you've never done either one before.
>
>If you have your heart set on owning a Rhodes (and I gather the choice
>was merely an opportunistic fluke) then buy one of the sailing used
>ones. Someone offered a $5,000 boat that looked like a great deal for
>someone like you. Borrow the money. Spend the same amount of time
>working in a Burger King as you would have to spend working on your
>Rhodes to pay off your loan. Start sailing next weekend. If you decide
>you want to punt, you will be able to sell the Rhodes for virtually the
>same amount you paid for it.
>
>This is the same advice given by Michael, Ed, and others. Many of the
>people supporting your efforts have vastly more experience than you. It
>is taking all of them longer, and costing them more money than they had
>anticipated.
>
>Bill Effros
>
>
>
>sugargroveumc at bright.net wrote:
>
> >Micheal ,
> >I do not think that youare bad guy for stating your opinion.
> >The previous owner assures me that ll of the hardware is there ant seems 
>to be in good shape. My friend, who is decent sailor, asures me that 
>everything is there and that the work is 90 percent cosmetic. So we will 
>see what we will see.
> >Alan
> >
> >
> >>From: michael meltzer
> >>Date: Thu Jul 28, 10:09 PM
> >>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boat full of water, please help
> >>
> >>Now I am a bad guy for saying this might not be the right boat: let me
> >>try an story:
> >>back in high school a friend of mine(scott) had a shit blue 1976 ford
> >>pinto, went everywhere together, had a blast. now letts say I moved to
> >>ny and have never driven a car(alot of people in NY simply do not have
> >>the need), but now I get the urage to get a car. I run into scott and
> >>he tell me the shit blue 1976 ford pinto is in his back yard. It has
> >>weeds growing out of it of it for 3 years. Interior is gutted, sheet
> >>meatal is rusted, and so on. But I can have it for free by covering the
> >>towing charges.
> >>
> >>Now my wife hears of this: "but michael, I know you are handy, but you
> >>do not know the first thing about cars, and you execpt to complete
> >>this?(not to mention that I will get in it :-), She has a subjection," I
> >>know you can not aford a new pinto and have your hart set on a pinto,
> >>what about spending 4000 on one that runs and can be driven today, be
> >>handy and maintain it." .
> >>
> >>PS. thier really was a shit blue 1976 ford pinto own by scott, rummy had
> >>me thing about it because we all know what happen when you put gas in
> >>thier ass :-)
> >>back to the boat.
> >>
> >>1)You could find a good boat of that age for about 4000$ maybe less.
> >>2)you are not going to save anything, boat parts and doing the job right
> >>is not cheap, you spend 4000$ on supplys and parts.
> >>3)The hull and deck are not the marjor cost of the boat, it the hardware
> >>and labor of installing it
> >>4)deck work, means a delamuation, that big truoble
> >>5)thier is wood inside the fiberglass, transom being a trouble spot.
> >>6)mosly likly you missing hardware and the problem is you do not know it
> >>yet.
> >>7)let face it, you do not know what is right or wrong on the boat and
> >>open issues how thing are put back together(never seen it)
> >>8)a car restorer does not learn on weck, they start smaller projects and
> >>work thier way up
> >>9)be carful, the flip side is most people walk away from these jobs and
> >>hate sailing for it.
> >>10)restore after you learn to sail and forged your skill on the mantance
> >>wheel.
> >>11)this boat does not sound like it worth it
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Slim,
> >>>There are actually many Rhodies that keep gas in the lazaretto, they 
>just
> >>>won't admit it on the open list.
> >>>
> >>>Rummy
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