[Rhodes22-list] water in the lazerette?

[Bill Effros]

Ed,

My laz is painted, and I've been wondering about repainting.  What do 
you think?

Bill Effros

ed kroposki wrote:

>Saroj:
>	You have been on this list long enough to know that Sir Stanley
>modifies the construction of the boats each time he makes one.  I have no
>such tubie.
>
>Phyllis:
>	Everyone has talked around your question.  Water in the Lazerette is
>bad.  Newer boats are painted in the Lazerette to provide a degree of
>waterproofing.  Older boats have fiberglass exposed which is porous.  The
>foam on older boats is often exposed, which allows seepage.  
>	Water in the bilge on most boats comes from water getting into the
>cabin area.  See extensive past discussions on this subject and FAQ's.  It
>is bad.
>	Water outside the hull is normal.  The gel coat is the
>waterproofing.  You need to get a book on fiberglass boat construction.
>Many good books on this subject have been recommended in the past on this
>list.  One to start with would be Fiber Glass Boats by John Roberts.
>
>Ed K
>Greenville, SC, USA
>Addendum:  "When the best leader's work is done, the people say 'We did it
>ourselves!'".
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Saroj Gilbert
>Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:49 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How bad is some water in the laz?
>
>In my Rhodes22, there is a continuous passage from the laz into the cabin 
>and thus the bilge... don't know about others, but I thought this was 
>common.  The scuppers are really not large enough and I considered 
>increasing the size to 3/4 inch or 1 inch to reduce the problem here... it 
>doesn't take many leaves to clog them as they are.  You might consider doing
>
>this if you are doing a lot of work anyway.
>
>I believe that much of the water that gets into my cabin also comes in thru 
>the CB line scupper... the tube that this line goes thru has pulled away 
>from the fitting that goes into the CB casing and is too short to reconnect.
>
>I'm going to have to fit another longer tube into this space and thread the 
>line thru it and back up thru the scupper.
>
>I also have rain coming in thru the front port lights which need to be 
>rebedded at which time I'll replace the screens...  some folks have 
>installed canvas covers over these front opening ports to reduce the 
>accumulation of water there.
>
>If my battery gets too low so that the bilge pump no longer pumps, I get 
>significant water in the bilge and cabin floor over time.  If this becomes a
>
>substantial amount, the rigid foam seems to absorb it and then leaches it 
>out  so that water accumulates in the bilge even after the initial quantity 
>is pumped out..  I'm only guessing on this last point as I can't figure out 
>why water continues to drain although the laz appears dry and the bilge 
>float is no longer activating the pump (until the water level gets high 
>enough to activate the switch again)..
>
>Saroj
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "P&M Beals" <beals at rci.rutgers.edu>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How bad is some water in the laz?
>
>
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>
>>Rummy,
>>
>>I didn't realize that
>>water that might be due to rainfall into the laz would not travel down 
>>into
>>the bilge... .I thought there is a continuous open pathway from cabin to
>>stern & vice versa. I can see what I think is foam flotation material when
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>I
>>look into the lazarette and try to look forward...but I haven't understood
>>too well what is under there, or which areas are blocked or separated from
>>others...
>>
>>If only one could get the up close view that Lou or Alan have, I would
>>probably understand the vessel a lot better!
>>
>>One more thing to do in my not so spare time...check for leaks, but easily
>>done may be checking those drain holes...I did have a bunch of leaves get
>>into the cockpit last fall...
>>
>>Hopefully a good sailing day tomorrow with three teen-agers aboard.
>>I took my first dip off the boat last weekend...in only 4 feet of water.
>>You have to love that ladder. I managed to scrub the sides a bit. despite 
>>a
>>thorough bottom paint job I still have picked up 4-5 barnacles...at the 
>>bow
>>almost near the waterline which I thought was odd.  who knows what is
>>underneath which can't even be seen.
>>
>>Oh you lucky lake sailors...any zebra mussels get into your lake?   (I 
>>know
>>about the Great Lakes zebra mussels).
>>
>>There is an R-22 owner on Raritan Bay, anchored next to me.  He sails 
>>single
>>handedly many days in the season with a traditional mainsail, and seems to
>>have quite a great time...I would like to compare the traditional mainsail
>>sailing with the IMF...maybe I will get to go out on his boat.  He rows 
>>his
>>dinghy out to his boat while we catch a launch, that's why it's been hard 
>>to
>>get acquainted.
>>
>>Anyway-
>>
>>Thanks again,
>>Phyllis
>>
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>>>From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:26:50 EDT
>>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How bad is some water in the laz?
>>>
>>>Phyllis,
>>>The only way water can get into the laz is over the rim of the cover. 
>>>This
>>>can happen due to the rear drains getting clogged, or have hardened and
>>>cracked,  or in our case, because of more rain that the drains can 
>>>handle.
>>>Water in
>>>the bilge means that water is entering the cabin. This can come from 
>>>several
>>>areas. The most suspect ones are the ports, the companionway hatch and 
>>>the
>>>centerboard pennant tubing. These are problems that can be diagnosed and
>>>fixed
>>>easily, it just takes time and perseverance. Place someone inside the 
>>>cabin
>>>and have someone on the outside take a hose a spray everything down. I 
>>>would
>>>recommend having an outline drawing made up ahead of time to note the 
>>>areas
>>>of leakage.
>>>
>>>Rummy
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