[Rhodes22-list] Re politics

Thu Aug 11 19:51:11 EDT 2005

Good luck gatting her wet.  I'm grounded until I get finished building some benc/planter boxes in the back yard.  It's probably 2 more weekends of work.  Maybe I'll get in some night sailing if I'm lucky.

-----Original Message-----
From:  Jim White 
Date:  8/11/05 12:41
To:  The Rhodes 22 mail list 
Subj:  RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re politics

No headsail problems Ben, but I just removed my headstay from the roller 
tube and am having a new one made up. Joy. Also bottom painted Menagerie 
the hull and rudder (another joy), recaulked under the rails, am in the 
process of servicing the 9.9 and other details in order to have her in the 
water by this weekend. With a little luck......

At 10:31 AM 8/11/2005, you wrote:
>Stan, you're killing me.
>
>I'd love to see more traffic too, but not at the expense of being 
>subjected to a bunch of pro-Bush bologna.
>
>Anyone having any more headsail problems?
>
>Ben
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:  stan
>Date:  8/11/05 11:12
>To:  The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Subj:  [Rhodes22-list] Re politics
>
>     it's the summer doldrums and time to stir the pot a bit.
>
>if there are any believers left out there who still feel our commander in
>chief, with his mission accomplished and shock and awe slogan weaponry and
>his solution to oils' problem of what to do with all the profits they are
>awash with, is to give them even more energy bill money, should keep  their
>eyes on the stock market from this point on.
>
>stan/ec
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Saroj Gilbert" <saroj at pathfind.net>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 4:43 PM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] OUR Rhodes
>
>
> >I use stackable plastic shelves with an upturned front which helps to hold
> >things in place... 3 of them stacked fit nicely under the counter.
> >
> > If anyone knows of a source for the Coleman ice box shelves and ice
> > holder, I'd like to know.
> >
> > Saroj
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] OUR Rhodes
> >
> >
> >> Julia, I always wanted some shelves or cubbies under the counter to hold
> >> my stuff.  I currently have a big rubbermaid tub with everything dumped
> >> in it.  Whatever you come up with keep the materials light, plastic is
> >> your best bet if you can find something that will work.  Bob Weber
> >>
> >>>From: Julia Guzman <trpclwife at yahoo.com>
> >>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] OUR Rhodes
> >>>Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 21:57:24 -0700 (PDT)
> >>>
> >>>I am Luis' wife. Paradise - our Rhodes Continental -
> >>>is just what I needed to become fully addicted to
> >>>sailing. It has always been a dream of mine, and at
> >>>this point I am happier on the water than almost
> >>>anywhere else. When we entered the first regatta I
> >>>scorned all that competitive stuff. During the last
> >>>one, I was extremely thrilled when we passed another
> >>>boat. I can't wait to take first place.
> >>>
> >>>Luis has put in many hours on the functionality of
> >>>Paradise and done a lot of research. He's also been
> >>>lucky enough to get the help of a great group of
> >>>friends from the neighborhood club. Even though I
> >>>sometimes call it an obsession, I know he's done a
> >>>great job and I am proud of his handy work.
> >>>
> >>>Now it's my turn - I spent my Sunday afternoon working
> >>>on the interior, as that is my end of the project. And
> >>>talking to the other Rhodes owner in the slip next to
> >>>ours. Paradise does need work, but it's fun! I'll be
> >>>sure and take plenty of pictures as I come up with my
> >>>own ways to "improvise," as Stan puts it.
> >>>
> >>>Anyway, I get a lot out of reading the tips and tricks
> >>>from other owners, and also from the pictures.
> >>>Anything regarding "improvised" interiors will be
> >>>welcomed information.
> >>>
> >>>Like my husband said - it does take a lot of
> >>>motivation. But, it sure is worth it!
> >>>
> >>>~ Julia Guzman
> >>>
> >>>--- Luis Guzman <trpclman at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Peter,
> >>> >
> >>> > I have a slip at the Bayshore Gardens' Marina.
> >>> >
> >>> > I am aware of the Sarasota Sailing Squadron as I
> >>> > have friends who keep their boats there.
> >>> >
> >>> > I have a pretty good deal on a slip ( less that
> >>> > $500/year) that is very close to my home and has dry
> >>> > docks for working on the boat.
> >>> >
> >>> > The neighborhood's Yacht Club is always organizing
> >>> > all kind of events including regattas and overnight
> >>> > trips.
> >>> >
> >>> > We started participating in the regattas and after a
> >>> > couple of tries (We had technical difficulties and
> >>> > had to drop out 2 times), we were given a generous
> >>> > PHRF of 399.  We placed fourth in the last regatta
> >>> > and we were 4 minutes behind the first place boat.
> >>> > Later we found out that we had been 7 minutes late
> >>> > to cross the starting line.
> >>> >
> >>> > We'll do a lot better next time.
> >>> >
> >>> > I agree 100% percent with you. Restoring a boat
> >>> > requires a lot of motivation.
> >>> >
> >>> > Peter Thorn <pthorn at nc.rr.com> wrote:
> >>> > Luis,
> >>> >
> >>> > Nice pictures! The picture of your boat going to
> >>> > windward on a loose reach
> >>> > is very similar to a 25 year old photo I have of my
> >>> > father sailing his
> >>> > Rhodes Continental. His boat even had the same bow
> >>> > mounted port light.
> >>> >
> >>> > For the last 20 years of his life, Sarasota Bay was
> >>> > his sailing waters.
> >>> > It's a great place to sail and we sailed out the
> >>> > pass (FL word for inlet)
> >>> > and around the island many times. If you don't
> >>> > already keep your boat at
> >>> > the Sarasota Sailing Squadron, perhaps you would
> >>> > want to check it out. It's
> >>> > subsidized by the city, so the fees are reasonable
> >>> > and it's a great club.
> >>> > >From the SSS, my father met old men like himself
> >>> > and organized sailing trips
> >>> > to the Everglades and back, a distance of 500 miles
> >>> > by water.
> >>> >
> >>> > For the record, it is my belief that motivation
> >>> > trumps experience when it
> >>> > comes to fixer-upper boats. The people on this list,
> >>> > as Stan says, are
> >>> > pretty smart. Many can learn how. If one wants to
> >>> > find out how to fix up
> >>> > an old boat, there is plenty of info and help
> >>> > available here, the R22 FAQ
> >>> > site, the archives and the www in general. It's only
> >>> > when the motivation
> >>> > wanes that a project boat slows.
> >>> >
> >>> > In my case, I gave up on my project boat when I
> >>> > realized it was cheaper to
> >>> > buy Raven than to fix up Phoenix to the level of
> >>> > Raven. But not all older
> >>> > boats need to be fully renovated to give years of
> >>> > joy and sailing pleasure
> >>> > to their owners. I expect sooner or later I will
> >>> > enjoy putting Phoenix
> >>> > together again. After, even working on a boat is
> >>> > still "messing around".
> >>> >
> >>> > Kudos to you for getting out on the water in one
> >>> > season.
> >>> >
> >>> > PT
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > From: "Luis Guzman"
> >>> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> >>> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 7:02 AM
> >>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boat full of water,
> >>> > please help
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > Alan,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I own a 1975 Rhodes Continental. This has been a
> >>> > project boat that needed
> >>> > some repair.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I did not know anything about boat repairs when I
> >>> > took on the project, but
> >>> > with help from the the list and other experienced
> >>> > sailors I have gotten it
> >>> > to the point that I can sail it. I still need to do
> >>> > some work on the cabin,
> >>> > but that can wait for now.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I had to build a new rudder head, put a new tiller
> >>> > (it was missing),
> >>> > install a new centerboard (it was also missing),
> >>> > replace the stays, fix
> >>> > leaky ports, replace both winches, and give it a
> >>> > bottom job (I paid somebody
> >>> > else to do this).
> >>> > >
> >>> > > If you are a little bit handy and are willing to
> >>> > learn, you can fix your
> >>> > Rhodes.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Enclosed are pictures of my Rhodes taken last
> >>> > Saturday on the Sarasota
> >>> > Bay.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I'm the one sitting on the starboard side, my wife
> >>> > Julia is in the
> >>> > background, and my 12 year old is the one fishing
> >>> > from the stern.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Luis Guzman
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Bill Effros wrote:
> >>> > > Alan,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > The posts you are getting from the most
> >>> > experienced members of this list
> >>> > > are trying to tell you that you are way out of
> >>> > your depth on this project.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > You will not be on the water by your projected
> >>> > date.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > The project will cost you far more than you
> >>> > anticipate.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > The boat will not sail properly.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > >From many of your questions, it would appear
> >>> > there will be profound
> >>> > > safety issues.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I would join the voices of those who recommend
> >>> > spending $250 on a used
> >>> > > Sunfish and getting out on the water next week.
> >>> > Sailing a Sunfish is
> >>> > > much more fun than rebuilding a Rhodes. In fact,
> >>> > Sailing a Sunfish can
> >>> > > be more fun than Sailing a Rhodes if you've never
> >>> > done either one before.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > If you have your heart set on owning a Rhodes (and
> >>> > I gather the choice
> >>> > > was merely an opportunistic fluke) then buy one of
> >>> > the sailing used
> >>> > > ones. Someone offered a $5,000 boat that looked
> >>> > like a great deal for
> >>> > > someone like you. Borrow the money. Spend the same
> >>> > amount of time
> >>> > > working in a Burger King as you would have to
> >>> > spend working on your
> >>> > > Rhodes to pay off your loan. Start sailing next
> >>> > weekend. If you decide
> >>> > > you want to punt, you will be able to sell the
> >>> > Rhodes for virtually the
> >>> > > same amount you paid for it.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > This is the same advice given by Michael, Ed, and
> >>> > others. Many of the
> >>> > > people supporting your efforts have vastly more
> >>> > experience than you. It
> >>> > > is taking all of them longer, and costing them
> >>> > more money than they had
> >>> > > anticipated.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Bill Effros
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > sugargroveumc at bright.net wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > >Micheal ,
> >>> > > >I do not think that youare bad guy for stating
> >>> > your opinion.
> >>> > > >The previous owner assures me that ll of the
> >>> > hardware is there ant seems
> >>> > to be in good shape. My friend, who is decent
> >>> > sailor, asures me that
> >>> > everything is there and that the work is 90 percent
> >>> > cosmetic. So we will see
> >>> > what we will see.
> >>> > > >Alan
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> >
> >>>=== message truncated ===
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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