[Rhodes22-list] Chinese Boom Rooms?

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Wed Aug 24 11:02:44 EDT 2005


Wally,

Can you put numbers on your desires?  I mean this quite seriously.  I 
know you use your boat, and I know you want to be fair to Stan.  At what 
price would you buy various items from Stan?  Which items would you be 
most interested in?  What would you be willing to pay?  You will not be 
held to any of this--it is just part of an exercise to see if what we 
all want can be done.

Bill Effros



Wally Buck wrote:

> If you are asking me if I have a problem purchasing Chinese made boat 
> parts from Stan ....If I place my order and send payment to Stan the 
> source doesn't concern me too much. I would prefer to buy "USA" but I 
> have owned many imported cars.
>
> You also asked if price is holding me back from purchasing boat 
> goodies from GB. The answer is yes. I would love to have new cabin 
> cushions, new cockpit cushions, cokcpit fill-in cushions, pop-top 
> enclosure, bimini. The boom room really doesn't interest me. We 
> overnight quite a bit. If it is stormy we go in cabin. If it is nice 
> we like the view from cockpit. We also swim and fish.  I am trying to 
> decide if I should spend the money on my R22 or perhaps sell and use 
> the cash from all of those upgrades for .......
>
> I forgot, add the battened IMF to my wish  list as well.
>
> Wally
>
>> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> To: R22 List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chinese Boom Rooms?
>> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:21:37 -0400
>>
>> Brad Haslett emailed me off-list regarding our discussion of boom 
>> rooms, etc. which he has been following while vacationing in China.
>>
>> Brad asked if anyone would have an interest in his exploring Chinese 
>> manufacture of Boom Rooms, Sails, Pop-Top Enclosures, Cockpit and 
>> Cabin Cushions, Cockpit Fill in Boards, -- all the little stuff the 
>> Chinese can make for a fraction of what it costs to manufacture in 
>> the US.
>>
>> I have not asked Stan about this, and I don't think Brad has either, 
>> however it goes without saying that if Stan doesn't like the idea, 
>> Brad is not going to do it.  Stan would make money on every item made 
>> in China, and whatever he says is his cut, that's what he'll get.  
>> There will be no negotiation on this.
>>
>> But before he even begins the project, Brad wants to know how the 
>> ultimate consumers feel about this idea.  If Brad can set up 
>> manufacturing in China with Stan's approval, would Rhodes owners buy 
>> the Chinese made products?
>>
>> Stan would have to provide the original patterns and specifications, 
>> but that is all Stan would have to do.  Brad believes he can set up a 
>> reliable manufacturing operation in China that will produce any of 
>> these products to Stan's satisfaction at a lower cost than Stan can 
>> get them produced in the US.
>>
>> 5 of us indicated an interest in Boom Rooms.  Me, Chris, Dave, Bruce, 
>> and maybe Bob.  (Did I miss anyone?)  I would be willing to be the 
>> guinea pig on this. How do the rest of you feel?  Bob, if we could 
>> bring the price down, at what price would you be a player?
>>
>> What about people who want Pop Top Enclosures, or Battened IMF sails, 
>> or cockpit fill in cushions?  Is there a price for these items that 
>> would prompt you to take money out of your pocket and put it on the 
>> table?
>>
>> Look at Stan's options prices on his web site 
>> (http://www.rhodes22.com/super_options.html).  Is there something you 
>> would actually buy if the price were lower?  If so, what would the 
>> price have to be?
>>
>> Brad is returning to the US shortly, and doesn't have much time to 
>> see if he can set up something like this.  If you think this is a 
>> terrible idea, please speak up quickly so we all know where we stand.
>>
>> I think this is an interesting idea if Brad can actually do it.  It 
>> is something we can all do to put more money in Stan's pocket right 
>> away, while buying parts for our boats at a lower cost.  It's a 
>> win-win...if Brad can pull it off.
>>
>> Please note.  Brad is a commercial airline pilot who no longer owns a 
>> Rhodes 22.  There is nothing in this deal for him.  He will always 
>> make more money flying an airplane than getting involved in a crazy 
>> sailboat spare parts Chinese manufacturing scheme.  He just happens 
>> to be in China right now, saw Stan's Lament, and asked if there was 
>> anything he could do to help.
>>
>> Bill Effros
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