[Rhodes22-list] Bill's Parts Catalog

[stan]

Wallly, it was never a question of  "raising profits" - it was whether it is 
time to consider  "starting profits".

stan/gbi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 12:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Parts Catalog


> Ha ha Ed, too funny! I agree this may be nothing but fantasy (folly?) talk 
> but not for the reasons MJM mentioned. As others have pointed out for most 
> of the products we are discussing you don't need the boat. As I said in 
> earlier posts there are many challenges and it will be interesting to see 
> what our Eastern travelers find out. I like you am sceptical.
>
> Also no one is telling Stan how to build boats. If you have been paying 
> attention this thread started as a direct result of Stans suggestion of 
> raising GBs profits. :-)
>
> Wally
>
>
>
>
>>From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bill's Parts Catalog
>>Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 12:06:13 -0400
>>
>>Mr. Effros:
>> 1. Stan has been making boats for 48 years, I do not nor will
>>not attempt to tell him how make small sailboats.  I have been to Mystic
>>Seaport museum and the North Carolina sailing museum in Beaufort.  They 
>>only
>>begin to explain what he knows about sail boats.
>> 2.   As to me making a parts catalog, it is my opinion that you are
>>the professional writer, so it is best if you do it.  That is if you are
>>really a professional writer. This is your project, I sincerely expect you
>>to post the results to the Rhodes 22.org web site.
>> 3. Are you practicing writing fiction and fantasy at the
>>expense of this list?  That is how I categorize the discussions of parts 
>>and
>>Chinese boom rooms. If you would, reread Michael's post.  Your comments
>>could create unrealistic expectations of what can be achieved resulting in
>>individual disillusion and alienation.  You keep volunteering others, but
>>you make little contribution with substance.
>>
>>Ed K
>>Greenville, SC, USA
>>See: www.naut-res-guild.org/MIS/ncmm.html
>>
>>      www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/maritime/default.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>>Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 10:22 AM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Parts Catalog
>>
>>Ed,
>>
>>At this point you clearly know more about this than anyone in the world
>>except Stan.  We computer guys can help, but we can't work around if we
>>don't understand the work.
>>
>>There should be a parts catalog.  Can you help develop one?  Some of the
>>parts are obvious -- Hull; Pop-Top; Cleat; etc.  Some are so obscure we
>>won't even know how to name them (Spring Inside Thingy that Locks
>>Pop-Top in Open Position).
>>
>>  From a computer point of view, I suppose we should give a prefix number
>>to every major item (Hull=001; Pop-Top=002; etc.)  Stan speaks of
>>multiple molds required to fabricate an R22.  Each should have its own
>>prefix number.  Then the parts attached to it should have sub-numbers,
>>so a cleat attached to the hull might have a different number than a
>>cleat attached to the cabin--even if it were the same cleat.
>>
>>I haven't done this in a while, so the science may have leap frogged
>>beyond what I know.  We have no shortage of computer guys on the list
>>who can help.
>>
>>Starting with just the Boom Room, what are the parts?  I assume each
>>sub-assembly will get its own part number (the computer can figure out
>>that a snap on the end of a strap, attached to a screen, sewed onto a
>>Velcro frame cut out of the main boom room assembly; is the same snap as
>>the snap on a pop-top enclosure where it attaches to the sloping portion
>>of the bow--even though they have 2 different part numbers so the
>>Bulgarian will know that the snap is used for one purpose in one
>>sub-assembly, and another purpose in the other sub-assembly.  The
>>computer will allocate the inventory properly, and reorder pieces before
>>they are needed.)
>>
>>Ed, returning to the central point, would you be able to spec all the
>>parts needed to assemble just a boom room?  (English will be fine for
>>this exercise.)  If we can find the Chinese to do the job, we will have
>>to be able to provide all of this information.  We should develop our
>>parts numbering system for the Boom Room so we can fool the Chinese into
>>thinking we have even the slightest idea of what we are talking about.
>>
>>Bill Effros
>>
>>
>>ed kroposki wrote:
>>
>> > You guys miss a very important point.  On line ordering requires
>> >that the recipient of your order understands what you want.  That takes
>>time
>> >and experience.  It takes understanding the language that you are
>>speaking
>> >in.
>> > All parts orders from GBI need to be written clearly in three
>> >languages at this time.  They need to be in English, Bulgarian, and
>>Spanish.
>> >Orders written in English only can languish until the maestro has time 
>> >to
>> >decipher them and translate to Spanish and Bulgarian.  When translating
>>to
>> >Spanish, a detailed engineering drawing and photo are required.  A
>>digital
>> >picture enhances the probability of an accurate exchange of information.
>> > These requirements can change Monday morning when Stan hires a new
>> >guy from Turkey or Vietnam.  Always keep in mind that many parts for a
>> >Rhodes 22 are unique, and that year of manufacture has relevance to part
>> >needed.  There is no master catalog of Rhodes 22 parts. Each boat is 
>> >hand
>> >crafted, and boats vary depending on the availability of each part and
>> >Stan's penchant for innovation.  The computer experts are familiar with
>>the
>> >phrase 'work around'.
>> >
>> >Ed K
>> >Greenville, SC, USA
>> >Addendum:  You can tell it is 2005 when you have 15 cell phone numbers
>>for
>> >three people.
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bob Keller
>> >Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 2:05 PM
>> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Stan's lament - and decision
>> >
>> >Great idea Stan.  Should help everyone.  Now, how about an on-line parts
>> >catalog...
>> >Bob K
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>
>> >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >>To: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>,"The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>> >><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Stan's lament - and decision
>> >>Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 12:12:57 -0400
>> >>
>> >>Peter,
>> >>
>> >>granted they are not mind readers but hopefully they are e-mail readers
>>and
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>I had thought we were pretty clear.
>> >>
>> >>up to this point we had not told anyone what to do - we just wanted to
>> >>explain how the wind was shifting and wanted to see if any of the brain
>> >>trust had some interesting thoughts and you in particular certainly 
>> >>did.
>> >>
>> >>in the final analysis it was clear we had to make a decision and we 
>> >>have
>> >>come up with a simple one.
>> >>
>> >>We think the Rhodes-list is wonderful and we will do everything in our
>> >>control to help it expand by recommending to everyone we sell a Rhodes
>>to
>> >>that they immediately join this great group.
>> >>
>> >>At the same time we decided that we will no longer direct Rhodes
>>prospects
>>
>> >>or Rhodes sellers (that approach us) to the List.  .Instead we will 
>> >>open
>>a
>>
>> >>second web site which will be the place to go for anyone who wants to
>>buy
>> >>or sell a Rhodes and is agreeable to the terms. This site will be the
>> >>Rhodes Buying and Selling Exchange, strictly business and humorless.
>> >>With practically no 22 size competition left on the market, this will 
>> >>be
>>a
>>
>> >>highly specialized place to go for sellers and buyers.  And this will
>> >>expand GB's selling of new Rhodes and Recycled Rhodes to now also
>>include
>> >>GB's help in the selling of Used Rhodes of any vintage.
>> >>
>> >>When anyone on the Rhodes-List wants to sell their boat they can take
>> >>advantage of the "Rhodes Buyers and Sellers Exchange" or any other 
>> >>media
>> >>they wish.  They just no longer will be having their List clogged up
>>with
>>a
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>flow of Rhodes wannabes from GBI's web site links or literature or 
>> >>sales
>> >>force.
>> >>
>> >>We see it as a win/win solution that will be universally beneficial.
>> >>
>> >>stan/gbi/ec
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
>> >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >>Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:37 AM
>> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Stan's lament - and decision
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Stan,
>> >>>
>> >>>The members of the list are not mind-readers. (At least, I think there
>>are
>> >>>none).  If you want your friends, supporters and good customers on the
>> >>>list
>> >>>to do something specific to help GBI react to tough times you must 
>> >>>tell
>>us
>> >>>clearly how to help.   Many or most are quite willing.  Give us
>>something
>> >>>simple and effective to do.
>> >>>
>> >>>What's the plan Stan?
>> >>>
>> >>>PT
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>
>> >>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >>>Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 2:42 PM
>> >>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Stan's lament - and decision
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>     ----- Original Message -----      From: stan
>> >>>     To: stan
>> >>>     Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 10:29 AM
>> >>>     Subject: Stan's lament - and decision
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>         Dear Rhodies
>> >>>
>> >>>     Thanks to the handful who found time to contribute your 
>> >>> thinking -
>> >>>some interesting thoughts to mull over.
>> >>>
>> >>>     We do not have trouble selling Rhodes - it is just that we are 
>> >>> not
>> >>>selling them for our own account - not a problem when new boats were
>>the
>> >>>mainstay but with recycled sales now the bill payers, even I can see
>>the
>> >>>writing on the wall as a gowing % of our promtional outlays gets 
>> >>>posted
>> >>>under the expense item: charity.    As not a perfect past experience
>> >>>example, owners would go to Triad to bypass GB for their trailers (if
>>you
>> >>>read our two page report on developing the Rhodes Unit-matic trailer
>> >>>features  - radical in those days - you can appreciate our investment
>> >>>here)
>> >>>and Triad sold direct and we switched builders.  When Triad asked us 
>> >>>to
>> >>>come
>> >>>back they agreed to send all inquiries to us and that has worked to 
>> >>>the
>> >>>bigger advantage of both sides ever since.
>> >>>
>> >>>     As for the "List", we have decided to turn off the faucet, for
>>now.
>> >>>We will work on what would be best for all those concerned, in the
>>longer
>> >>>run.
>> >>>
>> >>>     stan for general boats
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