[Rhodes22-list] New Member Introduction

[Bud Connor]

Bill,
  I agree that we should not overload the 20% who do 95% of the work. 
 Another tack would
be to move this list and it's archive over to what it really needs to 
be: a Bulletin Board (BB).
With a BB you can easily manage the various threads and easily search 
its archives.  A very
powerful and free BB is available from phpBB.com.  See: 
http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/
for a sample.  I have never set up a Bulletin Board, but I am willing to 
investigate it and to
set it up - if someone is willing to host it.  Migrating the archives 
into the right "threads"
will be something we will all need to help with.

-Bud Connor


Bill Effros wrote:

> Bud,
>
> I'm open to anything except passing on new duties to people who 
> already do more than most--like Ed and Michael.
>
> People are so anxious to skip over what Michael sends that they 
> entirely miss the fundamentals--witness "Get me off this list!"
>
> My new member thought was that while new people may not know anything 
> about sailing or Rhodes 22s, they do know how they got here, and they 
> know that people helped them learn our version of proper etiquette 
> (Ed, pardon my French).  They can join in by helping those even newer 
> than themselves.
>
> Starting with Ed's message, I thought new people could either just 
> pass it along, or modify it, or learn how to link archival answers, or 
> learn how to search archives, or...
>
> I know that others will naturally jump in, but I've noticed that some 
> people are warmly welcomed, while others can be completely 
> unacknowledged due solely to circumstances beyond everyone's control.  
> I thought that by giving new members responsibilities that they knew 
> they could perform, or could learn from the list if they don't know 
> how to do these things, and could pass on to even newer members...
>
> I know you get the idea.  Will you volunteer as new member "mentor" 
> for a set period of time with the responsibility to pass off that 
> responsibility?  It has been my experience that every time we try to 
> get the general list to assume responsibilities, it always devolves 
> down to "Let's let Ed and Michael do it."
>
> I've been on the list for 7 or 8 years now, and every time we try to 
> share the responsibilities it always winds up that either one 
> individual takes the bull by the horns and does all the work (Tom 
> Evans -- FAQ) or we talk it to death with everyone suggesting that 
> somebody else should do the work.
>
> Chance are that it will happen again, but I keep trying...
>
> Bill Effros
>
>
>
>
>
> Bud Connor wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>  I like most of the suggestions, except for making each new member 
>> responsible for showing others
>> where to find things, and how we operate.  I think "most" of that 
>> information could be put into the
>> standard message that Michael sends out when someone joins the list.  
>> I think we should pass around
>> responsibility for keeping that intro message up to date, like adding 
>> the info on the frappr tool.
>> Also, I think we should have one designated "mentor" who is 
>> responsible for answering the
>> general neophyte questions, this could be a role that we could pass 
>> around every six months.
>> Michael could setup the email address:  oracle at rhodes22.org  and have 
>> all mail forwarded to
>> someone on the list, such as Ed for the next six months.
>>
>> -Bud Connor
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Effros wrote:
>>
>>> Joe,
>>>
>>> Nice intro. For most people it's a hard thing to do, since you can't 
>>> know how the group operates until after you have entered.
>>>
>>> We are working on a stock reply, since all of the successful groups 
>>> are a bit different from what people who have never before been a 
>>> member of such a group expect when they enter.
>>>
>>> Ed, who does a lot of work trying to keep this list orderly, sent 
>>> you the link to the basis for a stock reply. At the same time he 
>>> pushed you into the archives, and tried to encourage you to explore 
>>> them before asking a question that has been asked and answered 
>>> hundreds of times before. My favorite is "Why do you love your boat?"
>>>
>>> Sometimes newer people want to jump in on this question. Sometimes 
>>> the person asking the question only gets snide comments. There is no 
>>> way to know which way it will fall, and it can really turn off new 
>>> people. Understandably.
>>>
>>> I think each new member should be responsible for welcoming the next 
>>> new person, and showing them where to find things, and how we 
>>> operate. We ask new members to put their comments above what they 
>>> are replying to. We ask everyone to change the subject line to 
>>> reflect the actual subject of their email if it changes from the 
>>> subject of the original thread. We ask people to look at the 
>>> archives and the General Boats information. We explain that few 
>>> holds are barred on this list, and that we talk about everything 
>>> else when we are not talking about boats.
>>>
>>> We put a "J-" (no quotation marks) in front of a joke. We put a "P-" 
>>> in front of politics--so people won't be offended by stumbling into 
>>> something that was much more than they had bargained for when they 
>>> joined the list.
>>>
>>> Would you be willing to accept the responsibility to welcome the 
>>> next new member of the list, and to pass off the responsibility to 
>>> the next new member?
>>>
>>> Bill Effros
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe Astuccio II wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Group,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   My name is Joe and I just moved to Fort Lauderdale,
>>>> Florida.  I have a passion for sailing but I don't
>>>> know how to sail yet LOL.  I have been on a few
>>>> different sailboats and I always enjoy my time on the
>>>> water.  My favorite thing is the moment the engine
>>>> turns off, switching to sails for power, and the
>>>> serenity that seems to come with it.  I came across
>>>> the Rhodes 22 on the internet and it seems like a
>>>> dream that will be within my reach.  lll be lurking
>>>> around here reading posts for awhile til I go through
>>>> the archives and read some stories.  Im sure there is
>>>> alot of useful information there.  Thanks for having
>>>> me in the group.
>>>>
>>>> Happy Holidays,
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>>
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