[Rhodes22-list] Route -- Greenwich to Edenton

Mon Dec 12 13:17:36 EST 2005

Stan,

Sorry I never got back to you as my plans changed.  That was wrong of 
me, and I apologize.

I'm still sorting things out, and will get back to you back-channel.

Bill Effros

stan wrote:

>
> Bill E.
>
> busy because I am old and slow - not because lots of work
>
> while we would like to see you we would rather see your boat
> there is plenty of room at the Inn for you and your boat for as long 
> as you want to hang out.
> it does not have to be on a weekend - per your notice of 10/6/05 we 
> kept 11/8 to 11/15/05 open for you.
> this time don't send us dates - just an e-mail, a few minutes before 
> arrival.
> always need help selling used boats (new and recycled sell themselves).
>
> ss
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 2:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Route -- Greenwich to Edenton
>
>
>> Stan,
>>
>> Glad to hear you've got lots of work.  You seem to keep quite busy 
>> for an old guy.
>>
>> Lucky for me, as you may have heard, these boats are built quite 
>> well, and an 8 year old boat doesn't need much in the way of labor.  
>> Mainly what I want to do is add stuff I didn't get the first time 
>> around.  Chances are I can do most of the labor myself--I just need 
>> to know if you need to make measurements or see things on my actual 
>> boat.  Also I was looking forward to chewing the fat with you.
>>
>> Do you need to see my boat to order me a Boom Room?  Do you need my 
>> boat to install a boom room?  It seems several others have the same 
>> questions. If we front you the money for several boom rooms can we 
>> lower the price?
>>
>> Also I want a new battened sail, and a new IMF mast.  I assume the 
>> least expensive way to pick up the mast is at the factory, unless 
>> it's made somewhere along my route, and I can pick it up en route. 
>> (Sorry, Ed.)
>>
>> Also I want your advice on numerous technical matters.  I have the 
>> plastic gudgeons, and have worked out how to refit the holes so they 
>> don't wear. Should I replace them with metal gudgeons anyhow?
>> Plumbing suggestions for installed heads with no plumbed input.
>> Feasibility study on mounting an auto tiller on a motorized motor mount.
>>
>> Deck/Mast electrical hardware recommendations.
>>
>> Chart Table/Bat Wing feasibility study.
>>
>> Pedestal envy.
>>
>> Cordage replacement.
>>
>> Water gauge considerations.
>>
>> Latest Mast Hoist refinements.
>>
>> Port settee repair or replacement advice.
>>
>> Shorties -- Tiller/Mast/Pedestal/Trailer
>>
>> Hatch arm replacement part.
>>
>> Latest pintel configuration.
>>
>> There's more.  At some point it seemed like it would take less time 
>> to talk face to face than to try to hash it all out via email or 
>> telephone. No offense intended, but record keeping does not seem to 
>> be your strongest suit.  I was planning to arrive on a Friday so we 
>> could spend time over a weekend without interrupting your labor 
>> team.  I speak no Spanish, and can communicate only in English...badly.
>>
>> Is there space in your boatyard?
>>
>> Need help selling used boats?
>>
>> Bill Effros
>>
>>
>> stan wrote:
>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> You are always welcome to make a pit stop at GB on the way down and 
>>> even to spend the night at the luxurious GB plant guest apartment but
>>> There is no way we could get to do any work on your boat this late 
>>> in the building season.  Nell cancelled because we were taking too 
>>> long..
>>>
>>> If you survive your southern adventures, leave it here on the way 
>>> back north - by then it may really need a make over.
>>>
>>> stan/gbi
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:34 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Route -- Greenwich to Edenton
>>>
>>>
>>>> Slim,
>>>>
>>>> I'm disappointed about the cards.  I already know you don't do 
>>>> windows.
>>>>
>>>> As oft threatened, I'm going to recycle my own boat this year.  
>>>> That's why I'm taking it down to Edenton.
>>>>
>>>> There is a chance I will then take the boat down to Florida.  
>>>> (There is always that chance, however the boat will be closer to 
>>>> Florida...) Chris's Baja adventure has been an inspiration.
>>>>
>>>> My wife has actually given the go-ahead on this one, now it's just 
>>>> a question of whether I will be able to get my shit together.
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking in terms of renting a house on the water in the 
>>>> Keys--possibly a house on an island--and using the boat from the 
>>>> house. Many friends have shown an interest in this idea.
>>>>
>>>> We have a good friend who lives in Coconut Grove, within walking 
>>>> distance of Dinner Key marina which offers transient slips, a ramp, 
>>>> and a hoist for dry sailors.  They also have a 1960s Key West Style 
>>>> funky bar on the water where you can sit all day and just be happy 
>>>> to be alive--and warm.  Our friend expects us this winter.  There's 
>>>> plenty of good sailing in Biscayne bay.  There are live-aboards who 
>>>> give the whole place a 1960s feeling. It's an uncommercial time-warp.
>>>>
>>>> (Brad would be comfortable at Dinner Key -- It was built for Pan-Am 
>>>> when they flew amphibious planes ("Flying Boats") all over the 
>>>> Americas.)
>>>>
>>>> I've been tracking the suggested routes (thanks to all, and keep 
>>>> them coming) on my new mapping program.  I am seriously considering 
>>>> going down one way, and coming back another.  Then I've got to make 
>>>> the round trip again.  I am comparing the routes on the new program 
>>>> which is a substantial software improvement, not to mention the 
>>>> improved cartography. I find I get a lot of use out of mapping 
>>>> programs.  I will report back both on mapping program results and 
>>>> actual results.  All routes will be considered, and all reasons for 
>>>> taking different routes will be factored in.
>>>>
>>>> If I do the Edenton to Florida run, I'll go through this exercise 
>>>> again. And since I'll be so close to Rummy, Ed, and others...how 
>>>> could I just pass by without saying hello?
>>>>
>>>> Russ, thanks for all the follow ups.  Thanks, also to everyone else 
>>>> who has responded, and all the back-channel suggestions.  I drive a 
>>>> lot, and I enjoy driving, so I know I prefer to know exactly where 
>>>> I'm going before I start, and not to start improvising at 60 miles 
>>>> an hour while towing a 3500 lb boat.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't take a lot of time to work out all the suggested routes 
>>>> while I'm sitting in front of my computer.  Thanks again for all 
>>>> the suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>
>>>> Slim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, I'll bite.  Why are you taking your boat to Edenton?  Trading 
>>>>> up? And
>>>>> no, I don't do Christmas cards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Slim
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/7/05 9:41 AM, "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to all for freeing me from having to check this out in the 
>>>>>> archives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know this question has been asked and answered many times before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am taking my boat from Greenwich to Edenton.  I just got a new 
>>>>>> mapping
>>>>>> program (more about that to come), but I don't like the computer
>>>>>> generated route.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What route would you take?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What route would Elton take?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a difference?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a truck large enough to safely handle the task; I am 
>>>>>> borrowing
>>>>>> Bruce Greenwald's dual axle trailer, I am not nervous about 
>>>>>> towing, and
>>>>>> have done it before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill Effros
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