[Rhodes22-list] Black Sea - Ron and Stan

[Ronald Lipton]

Ed,

     I have not been to the Ukraine, but I was Belarus four years ago.
Belarus is one of the few unreconstructed former Soviet states which
has retained the old communist system, as a result the country is
much like the old USSR: decayed infrastucture, inflated currency with
the street rate much different than the official rate, limited access to
services like ATMs or even places that accept credit cards.  Waiters
would do things like reuse old mineral water bottles, filling them with
tap water.

    I think the Ukraine is probably in considerably better shape.  They  
have
been much more open to western influences and, despite the recent
nastiness like feeding the opposition candidate agent orange, are
more open in general than Belarus, but that really isn't saying much.

   My wife has a colleague who has been conducting a epidemiological
study at Kiev related to Chernobyl.  She commutes to Ukraine regularly.
I can ask Becky to see if she can get more up-to-date information.  I  
will
get her name if your wife wants to e-mail her directly, since they are
both in health-care they may talk the same language.

Ron
On Feb 5, 2005, at 7:48 AM, ed kroposki wrote:

>
> Ron and Stan:
> 	There is a remote possibility that my wife and I may go to the
> Ukraine in March.
> 	This is not a vacation, but a work fact-finding trip.  They asked my
> wife at work if she would go and she told them she would only go if  
> both of
> us go.  Neither of us knows the language nor alphabet.  She is  
> supposed to
> evaluate courses, curriculum and students related to health care.
>
> Ron,
> 	What do you need to take?  I supposed that since the Communist are
> out of power, things are different, but are they?  Two centrally  
> located
> areas are involved:  Ternopil and Rivne.
>
> 	This is all tentative.  They may not accept the package deal, in
> which case my wife said she will not go, but they may not have  
> understood.
> Several institutions are involved, so it may be just them.
>
> Ed K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Ronald Lipton
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:57 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Black Sea Rhodes?
>
> I was in Sochi, a Black Sea  resort town. about 12 years ago.
> Never saw any Rhodes 22s.  Stan didn't seem to be around either.
>
> Ron
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 6:52 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Black Sea Rhodes?
>
>
> Do we have any Rhodies familiar with the Black Sea???? You know that  
> body of
> water south of the Ukraine?  Did Stan sell any Rhodes there?
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
> See:
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> &addtohistory=&city=
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