[Rhodes22-list] Blue Water Boats

brad haslett flybrad at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 10 03:41:58 EST 2005


Chris,

Thanks for the heads-up.  We've been concentrating on
the insurance auctions and somehow missed that one. 
I've bid on enough big-ticket items on ebay to learn
that the serious bidders don't jump in until the last
five minutes.  Often the buyer bids only once.  The
Island Packet we bid on went-up 10K in the last three
minutes.  So far the hurricane boats have brought
suprisingly high bids.  I'll keep an eye on this
auction and have two computers monitoring it at close.
 You need one to watch the bid and one to make the bid
unless you just want to auto-bid and forget it.  Why
they cut the mast instead of de-rigging is beyond me
but masts can be internally spliced and if not, the
replacement cost is not all that high if you buy the
extrusion and replace the hardware yourself.  This is
a lot more fun than watching the stock market.

Brad Haslett
"CoraShen"
--- Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net> wrote:

> If somone is looking for a Project blue water boat
> my son pointed out a 36
> foot Cape Dory on e-bay.  2 days to go and due to
> some "minor cosmetic"
> hurricane damage (oh yes seems the mast was cut in
> half for transport) it is
> at 10K.
> Chris-still-happy-with-my-Rhodes-G.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark at kaynor.org>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 9:11 AM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Blue Water Boats
> 
> 
> Brad,
> 
> The interior wood doesn't require a lot of
> maintenance - if varnished,
> there's no UV exposure, so it lasts quite a while.
> If oiled, a periodic
> cleaning w/ Murphy's keeps it looking nice.
> 
> The exterior wood is a bit of a PITA - we've gotten
> pretty good service from
> Cetol.
> 
> I love the woodwork inside the boat. The difference
> between the interior of
> a Tayana and a more "modern" boat like a Hunter or a
> Beneteau is a bit like
> the difference between a Victorian house and a
> double-wide. No comparison in
> workmanship, even though the living space in the
> double-wide is generally
> lighter and more open. That's not to knock the "more
> modern" boats - I just
> love the look and feel of that wonderful teak
> joinery.
> 
> And to top it off, the Ta Shing Panda is all curves
> inside - I just looked
> in Yachtworld, but there's only one on there right
> now. You can see the
> curve of the settee and the salon, but there are no
> good pics of the galley
> or the v-berth - both of which are exquisite and
> were a large reason we so
> liked the boat. The one we looked at had a starburst
> inlaid salon table and
> the cushions were probably the most comfortable of
> any boat we looked at.
> Problem is, they're more pricey than the Tayana -
> they were asking $5K more
> for the Panda we looked at that needed a lot of work
> than we paid for our
> Tayana that was ready to go. And that was $30-35K
> less than any other Panda
> on the market at that time. Gorgeous boats, though.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of brad haslett
> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 4:21 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Blue Water Boats
> 
> Mark,
> 
> It took some research but I finally found the Panda,
> made by Tashing.  I
> love all the Chinese boats, Tashing, Choey Lee,
> Tayana (my wife would argue
> about whether they are really Chinese but we'll
> leave that issue alone).
> Frankly, for me, all that wood looks like a lot of
> work but my friend is a
> woodworker and that would be right up his alley.  We
> bought this building
> together with the idea that he'd spend more time in
> the area and on my boat.
> Since he got arrested for public intoxication
> jogging back to my boat the
> second day there, he wants to use the facilities to
> for a restoration
> project and tell the rest of society (including the
> local gestapo) to F/O.
> He's 55, no kids, comfortable nest egg, no
> obligations except maybe a
> sweetheart in China, he's ready to cruise.  Bastard!
> 
> Brad
> 
> 
> --- Mark Kaynor <mark at kaynor.org> wrote:
> 
> > Brad,
> >
> > Back when we were looking, we went to Ft.
> Lauderdale
> > - there are always a
> > ton of boats for sale down there. Before we found
> Rachel, we fell in
> > love with a Panda 38 we saw. It was an "ugly
> duckling"
> > but it was beautiful. We
> > went back to see it twice before we left. Bob
> Quinn gave us the name
> > of a surveyor in Ft. Pierce and we had him go down
> and take a quick
> > look - not a full survey - we just wanted to know
> if there was
> > anything really wrong with it. Turned out the mast
> step was cracked,
> > all the standing rigging needed to be replaced, it
> needed all new
> > sails, had wooden decks w/ some water intrusion,
> and there were
> > several other things wrong with it, too. Then we
> found Rachel and
> > decided to go with the Tayana - in part because we
> wanted to go
> > sailing, not spend another year or two and a bunch
> more "boat bucks"
> > getting ready - and because the Tayana has that
> "classic" look we
> > love. I still think about that Panda sometimes,
> though.
> >
> > Below is a short email from another Tayana 37
> owner discussing his
> > experience with an Island Packet 38. This guy is
> sort of the Tayana
> > list's "resident Roger" <g>.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -------------------
> >
> > Just my impression from two long passages in
> nearly new IP38s from
> > Cape May to halfway to Bermuda and then toward
> Norfolk....
> > Both IP38s seemed to me
> > to be 'lifeless'  - no helm feedback (rack and
> pinion), poorly
> > arranged and under strength deck hardwa re and
> running gear, staysail
> > was very small (I did like the hoyt boom).  When I
> was on the helm I
> > had to steer more by eyeball than feel or helm
> pressure.  Both boats
> > had poorly tuned rigging so I cant offer much
> about what it would be
> > like on a proper ly tuned IP rig.
> > These trips were before I had interest in a Ty37
> but convinced me that
> > an IP was NOT to be included in my 'wish list'.  I
> realized that were
> > set up as the typical 'cruiser's boat' but I do
> remember that nothing
> > excited me about these b oats .... just a ho-hum
> experience.
> > Inside they were OK.  Other than an hourly
> maintenance tour when at
> > sea (my
> > routine) I didnt get deeply into the 'mechanicals'
> > nor structurals but I saw
> > nothing that stood out as 'bad'.  We did catch a
> near-gale nearing the
> > entrance to Ches and I was su rprised at the
> pounding of the bow and
> > extreme hobby-horsing into dead-on high chop (and
> the 'ends'
> > were not loaded), I
> > would have expected a smoother action from such a
> hull form ... and
> > then a lot of hardware (winches, etc.) started
> breaking, etc.
> >
> >
> >
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