[Rhodes22-list] Reply to Todd

Tue Feb 22 18:21:10 EST 2005

Ed,

You are correct.  I mentioned Rhodes but couldn't
remember at the time which boat it was.  It was Cheoy
Lee and I remember reading that Rhodes was pretty
bitter about it.  Many of the high-end boats are now
built on the mainland (Grand Banks for example) so it
is possible to do business with the Chinese and
protect your rights but you do have to be pro-active. 
I've purchased DVD's on the street in Beijing while
the movies were still in the theatre in the US.  Todd
is correct in that they could buy one boat and then
reverse engineer it.  That being said, you can find
trustworthy partners and protections are available to
protect intellectual property rights, but, pirating is
rampant.  I'll put my thinking cap on and visit with
Jia, my sister-in-law.  Jia is a tough-as-nails
negotiator and a shrewd businesswoman, on the
fast-track at HP.  This has the potential to be a good
deal for Stan but it won't be without its headaches or
risks.

Brad

--- ed kroposki <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:

> Todd:
> 	They tried that with the Boeing 707.  It never
> could get off the
> ground.  What they want is in Stan's head.  Now let
> us see if he wants to
> spend a week at a Chinese castle.
> 	I am sorry, trust is a two way street.  Would you
> trust the product
> pirating capital of the world?
> 	Who mentioned the Cheoy Lee 41?  Originally
> designed by Phil Rhodes
> at 40 feet, then they extended it by one foot and
> they said it was no longer
> his design and would no longer pay royalties.
> 	I guess we can expect to see a flood of 23-foot
> sailboats, so much
> for Stan's pension. Do you think we should welcome
> them on the List?  
> 	
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
> Addendum:  Distance you sail in 7.5 minutes at 8
> nautical miles per hour =
> knotfurlong
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of Todd Tavares
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:05 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Request for Brad's
> Input
> 
> Ed,
> 
>   If they wanted to build sailboats, they would just
> buy a used R 22 and
> copy it.
> 
>   Todd
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Request for Brad's Input
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:36:42 -0500
> 
> > 
> > Stan,
> > 	I agree with Deena's recommendations so far.  I
> would really wait
> > for our Chinese speaking Guru to comment further. 
> I think they just want
> > your molds and know how, maybe your building too. 
> I trust the Chinese as
> > far as I can throw Penny (Penny is the elephant at
> the Greenville Zoo).
> > 
> > Ed K
> > Greenville, SC, USA
> > Addendum:  2000 pounds of Chinese soup = Won ton
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of Deena
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:24 AM
> > To: stan; The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Political - for
> Brad's Eyes -
> > notrelatedtosailing!
> > 
> > Contact both the Chinese and American Embassy as
> they have a department
> that
> > handles these requests.  They can verify if it is
> a legitimate company and
> > whether or not this person can act/make decisions
> on their behalf.  My
> > husband and I did this year ago while trying to
> work with a company in
> > Taiwan that sold a specialized type of mud flap
> > My personal opinion is that if they do not have
> money to invest I would be
> > concerned on how they intend of funding the
> business to get it started.
> > Extending credit from you to them would not be a
> wise decision.  You would
> > have no recourse to reclaim any money or inventory
> losses.  You may also
> > want to check with Customs to see if they are
> importing any materials for
> an
> > existing business.    Good
> Luck................Deena
> > 
> > 
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On
> Behalf Of stan
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:18 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Political - for
> Brad's Eyes -
> > notrelatedtosailing!
> > 
> > Brad,
> > 
> > I was going to reply to your ss points but got
> distracted by something
> > closer to both our homes:
> > 
> > A Cindy Chen from a company that calls itself:
> > Beijing SYHC science and development company
> > at Room 313 Agriculture Building
> > Xicheng District, Beijing
> > 
> > sent me an e-mail expressing interest in doing
> business with us
> > 
> > We have no money to invest but are very interested
> in franchising the
> > building of the boats and suggested our franchise
> idea to Cindy.  She just
> > now called me and while she speaks English better
> than I do, I had
> > difficulty in hearing and understanding her and
> she said she would try
> > e-mail.
> > 
> > Is there any way I can tell if she represents a
> company of substance or is
> > just a Chinese Nigeria type outfit, before I take
> too much time with this
> > project since the address "Room number 313" gives
> me some reason for
> pause.
> > 
> > stan
> > 
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