[Rhodes22-list] Topping lift

Hank hnw555 at gmail.com
Sun Jan 23 20:27:41 EST 2005


Slim,

The rescue harness you're thinking of is the Life Sling.  A very good
product and easily used and deployed.  I have practiced with it on my
Islander 36 and we did use the boom with the vang attached to a padeye
near the end of the boom.  It worked very well.

Hank


On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:46:07 -0600, Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
> Bob,
> 
> I like the bosun's chair/main sheet tackle idea.  It seems like something
> one could deploy pretty quickly.  The main sheet tackle has its own cam
> cleat already there so that would help a lot, because at some point, the
> person doing the hoisting would need both hands to grab the hoistee.  Is
> that a word?  Or maybe instead of a chair, just a big loop to go around the
> torso and under the arms of a person in the water.  Isn't there a padded
> rescue harness like that?  I'd assume the person is unconscious or otherwise
> unable to climb the boarding ladder, so they might not be able to sit up in
> the chair.  I don't use a boom vang, but my wife has a Hmong student named
> Boom Vang--no kidding.
> 
> In addition to Robert's caveats, I'd cleat the topping lift off on the mast
> instead of trusting that tiny little block that it runs through by the
> shroud, since mine and others are so-rigged.  There's no way that block
> would hold much weight, but it would only take a moment to uncleat it from
> its cam cleat on the cabin roof and secure it on the mast horn cleat.
> 
> It'll be interesting to try this drill to see how much the boat heels when a
> person is lifted.  Thank you both for the suggestion.
> 
> Slim
> 
> On 1/21/05 10:38 AM, "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Steve, a lift system is a good thing to have - you may only use it once but
> > that is not the time to start inventing it.  I have a bosuns chair with an
> > extra smaller shackle which fits thru the end of the main sheet purchase.  I
> > would unhook the mainsheet from the traveler attach the shackle and swing
> > the boom over the side.  In practice it would be difficult to do by myself
> > but better than nothing.  The boom vang can be used as well.  Bob
> >
> >> From: Robert Skinner <robert at squirrelhaven.com>
> >> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Topping lift
> >> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:02:35 -0500
> >>
> >> Steve Alm wrote:
> >>> That's an intriguing idea--using the topping lift/boom to hoist an
> >> injured
> >>> person or cargo...
> >>> But I like your idea.  Have you beefed yours up?  Is yours rigged
> >>> differently?    I don't know what a "billy" is.
> >> -------------------------------------------------------
> >> Steve -
> >>
> >> A handy billy is a small block and tackle, generally with a 4:1
> >> or better mechanical advantage and something like a 500 lb
> >> capacity, as I understand it.  Somewhat like a deer hoist, but
> >> a bit stronger and with two double pulleys, one with becket.
> >>
> >> As the typical person or cargo weighs less than 500 lbs, and a
> >> boom vang has to deal with that amount of tension or more, you
> >> can rig the vang with carabiners or other easily openable links,
> >> letting you move it to a boom-end position.  Keep a couple of
> >> forged hooks in your anchor bucket, and you are in business.
> >>
> >> My topping lifts are made of 1/4" spectra, capacity 2000+ lbs.
> >>
> >> Warning - lifting heavy cargo with this sort of rig has two
> >> dangers that must be taken into account:
> >>
> >> 1.  The boom and gooseneck were not originally designed for this
> >> type of load/usage.  Keep an eye on the gooseneck for signs of
> >> failure, and DO NOT PUSH SIDEWAYS ON THE BOOM WHEN UNDER LOAD.
> >> The boom will do reasonable well under straight compression,
> >> but lateral force when under compression invites failure.
> >>
> >> 2.  500 pounds at the end of the boom, when extended over the
> >> beam, adds a lot of capsizing force.  Watch for sudden loads
> >> that may pull you over, and keep chubby friends on the opposite
> >> side of the boat to help counterbalance the load.
> >>
> >> Hope that fills in the chinks in my earlier post.
> >> --
> >> Robert Skinner
> >> "Squirrel Haven", 9 Gateway Commons, Gorham, Maine 04038-1331
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