[Rhodes22-list] Dogs

Sat Jul 9 07:42:47 EDT 2005

Slim,

Rescue dogs in the sense that they were rescued by a no-kill shelter. 
Unbelievably, the previous owners, military family, locked them up in their 
rented house with no food or water when they were transfered.  The mother is 
a Chihuahua and couldn't even reach the toilet to get a drink.  A neighbor 
dog was aware of their situation and fussed and fussed until his owner went 
to the abandoned house and heard their outcrys.  They were in bad shape... 
esp. the mom.  The owner contacted the shelter and the dogs were put into a 
foster home for six months until I adopted them in February.

They are wonderful dogs... especially the son who is without question the 
strangest looking dog I have ever seen.  I think the attached "adoption" 
picture was airbrushed...LOL... he has wirey hair that stands out all 
over... The came with names and I didn't want to disturb their lives too 
much so I continue to use them: Gateway (the son.. who looks something like 
a Gateway computer box) and Layla (the mom)... otherwise I would call him 
Velcro cause EVERYTHING sticks to his fir!   The mother has problems waiting 
to relieve herself until they are taken outside... particularly when under 
stress (primarily when left alone ...or should I say with her son cause they 
are always together).  She also is determined to go out of the yard now that 
she has regained some confidence.  I have to watch her like a hawk... and 
since I live where there are "real" hawks who could easily grab her up... 
she isn't out much.

Saroj

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Slim" <salm at mn.rr.com>
To: "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 5:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dogs

> Julie, thank you.  We'd love to get together with Jasper.  We're looking 
> for
> any and all reasons to bring Rio around and get him socialized.  And us 
> with
> you and Dan too. Thanks for the offer.  We jumped in right away with a new
> pup because the time is right--it's summer and he can spend a lot of time
> outside.  We have a very nice outdoor facility for him and we're 
> introducing
> him to the house very slowly and gradually. So far, he's only been allowed
> on our back 3-season, linoleum-floored porch. Despite their small size and
> the Fifi LaFoof reputation, they're really quite confident, even macho in
> their own way. Rio may be little, but he's all man!
>
> Rummy, WOW! 17!  She must have been loved and well-kept. My condolences.
> But Major was no good on the boat either.  He loved to swim too much.  All
> he ever did was complain loudly about wanting to go in the water and
> retrieve something. Imagine that!  But damn, he was poetry in motion in 
> the
> water! Poodles are water dogs and have webbed feet too, but they don't 
> take
> to the water as naturally as the labs, goldens, etc. so it may take some
> additional coaxing.
>
> Saroj, rescue dogs?  Tell us more.
>
> Slim
>
> On 7/8/05 10:23 PM, "Julie Thorndycraft" <julie at circle7.net> wrote:
>
>> Slim,
>> I'm sorry to hear about Major, loosing a friend is always difficult. I'm
>> amazed that you jumped in so quickly with your new addition but I can
>> certainly understand. It's hard not to have a critter around. If you 
>> (Rio)
>> need some playtime, stop over and let him play with Jasper. The monster
>> figured out how to flip a latch open on a kennel when he was quite 
>> young -
>> we keep a hook in it now. We dropped him off at a kennel in Wisconsin one
>> weekend last summer and he proceeded to let himself out and then 
>> immediately
>> went to the next kennel to 'free' the owners beagles. Fortunately we 
>> caught
>> him before he had released the entire pack.
>>
>> West now has serious dog life jackets compared to the wimpy ones they
>> carried in the past. These are strong enough that if you actually had to
>> pick the dog up by the shoulder handle, it wouldn't rip off. If you start
>> Rio in the water now while it's warm, he'll be a great boat dog.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>> P.S. Blue Loon gets hauled this weekend for the trip to North Channel. 
>> I've
>> heard there are about 40 boats on this years trip.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Slim" <salm at mn.rr.com>
>> To: "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 3:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dogs
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the responses.  Both my wife and I had poodles when we were
>>> young.  Mine was a mini and hers was a standard so we're familiar with
>>> their
>>> intelligence, grooming needs and occasional mischief.  Saroj, the image 
>>> of
>>> yours chewing his way off his leash and then freeing other dogs was
>>> probably
>>> a horrible experience at the time, but I'm laughing my butt off at that
>>> one.
>>> My mini was a true escape artist as well.  No chain link fence will do 
>>> if
>>> they learn to climb.
>>>
>>> I've read the Monks of New Skeet, Barbara Woodhouse and other field
>>> training
>>> stuff, but my favorite source is "How To Teach a New Dog Old Tricks" by
>>> Ian
>>> Dunbar.  He goes long on overall temperament training and socializing. 
>>> I
>>> like his idea that you don't teach a dog not to bark--you teach him WHEN
>>> to
>>> bark.  Or don't teach him not to dig but WHERE to dig, etc.
>>>
>>> We're very serious about the crate-training/house-breaking and so far, 
>>> so
>>> good.  We see to it that he never has the opportunity to do anything
>>> wrong--at least for now.  We take him for walks along the lake shore and
>>> he
>>> wades in but hasn't gone deep enough to swim yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for your thoughts.
>>>
>>> Slim
>>>
>>> On 7/8/05 11:29 AM, "Saroj Gilbert" <saroj at pathfind.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Slim, Good choice on dogs... I loved my miniature poodle and often took
>>>> him
>>>> sailing including the trip out on the harbor ferry to my boat which was
>>>> on a
>>>> mooring in Monroe Harbor in Chicago.  I never was out long enuf to 
>>>> worry
>>>> about the relieving part so I'll have to leave that up to others, but I
>>>> am
>>>> currently working with a Chihuahua on using the scented pads... good on
>>>> the
>>>> urine side, but not the other.  I did take a Beagle on trips out to
>>>> Catalina
>>>> Island, and we would row to shore twice a day which seemed enough for
>>>> her.
>>>>
>>>> The only down-side to poodles that I know of (aside from the 
>>>> never-ending
>>>> grooming involved) is that they are very sensitive and very
>>>> intelligent...
>>>> high intelligence in a dog isn't always a good thing.  For instance, he
>>>> quickly learned to chew through a leash if tied up and then would go
>>>> around
>>>> and chew through all the other dogs leashes around and set them free 
>>>> too.
>>>> I
>>>> know you aren't ever supposed to leave a dog in the car, but try that 
>>>> if
>>>> you
>>>> want to travel with him at all... Once, when I had to go into the vet 
>>>> to
>>>> pick up the cat... just a brief 15 minutes, I came out to discover he 
>>>> had
>>>> chewed through both front seat belts... these were they type with a 
>>>> small
>>>> explosive device and it cost $600 to replace them.   I had to take a
>>>> chain
>>>> with me wherever I went if he had to be tied up for any reason.
>>>>
>>>> I made the mistake of tethering him to myself during the training 
>>>> period
>>>> when I worked at home (a la the monks who train dogs... there is a book
>>>> out
>>>> on it).  He became excessively attached to me and I attribute it to 
>>>> this
>>>> early practice.  I could never cage train him even as a young puppy...
>>>> puzzling since he was accustomed to a cage before I got him.... I may
>>>> have
>>>> gone about it the wrong way.
>>>>
>>>> He loved to do tricks and I taught him many: he did the normal doggy
>>>> things:
>>>> heal, sit, come, lie down, roll-over, shake, stay, etc.  but I also
>>>> taught
>>>> him to high-five, dance in a circle, walk across the floor on his hind
>>>> legs,
>>>> leave food on his muzzle until told to get it, sit up among others. 
>>>> The
>>>> most fun thing was this: he would stand on his hind legs; I would point
>>>> my
>>>> finger at him and say "bang" and he would drop to the floor and play
>>>> dead.
>>>> Use your imagination... poodles are so smart that it only takes a few
>>>> times
>>>> before they have a trick under their belt... and they are great at
>>>> agility
>>>> should you or your wife care to pursue that.
>>>>
>>>> As far as adapting to the boat:
>>>> I always had a doggy life jacket on him... first off, he didn't like 
>>>> the
>>>> water much although poodles were used as water retrievers way back 
>>>> when.
>>>> I'd suggest getting him used to swimming while he is still young if he
>>>> isn't
>>>> naturally inclined.  I did that with a Beagle who was initially
>>>> water-averse
>>>> by walks along the water... calm water like a lake.  I would gradually
>>>> get
>>>> into deeper and deeper water until she had to swim although I was in 
>>>> only
>>>> knee-deep water myself.  She learned to love the water and became quite 
>>>> a
>>>> good sailor and swimmer although we had to undergo quite a few
>>>> dog-overboard
>>>> maneuvers as she was first and foremost a hunter and would go after any
>>>> fish
>>>> surfacing or the flying fish we saw in CA.  We sailed a Malibu 
>>>> outrigger
>>>> at
>>>> the time which is all surface.
>>>>
>>>> With Buddy, the poodle, I always kept him tethered and in the life
>>>> jacket.... he wanted to be next to me at all times and so wanted to
>>>> follow
>>>> me onto the foredeck which meant a likely dog-overboard experience 
>>>> which
>>>> I
>>>> really wanted to avoid.  He really seemed to enjoy the sailing although
>>>> being black as yours is, the sun can be hard on them, so you'll need to
>>>> provide shade or allow him into the cabin.  You'll probably want to 
>>>> keep
>>>> him
>>>> in a puppy cut... very short all over... to keep from getting a shower
>>>> when
>>>> he shakes himself after a swim.  Which reminds me... I also taught him 
>>>> to
>>>> shake himself on command and wouldn't let him out of the shower after
>>>> bathing him until he had shaken himself 3 times like that.... keeps the
>>>> bathroom a lot drier...LOL...
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy him... I'm sure he will bring you many years of enjoyment.
>>>>
>>>> Saroj
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Steve Alm" <salm at mn.rr.com>
>>>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 5:32 PM
>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Dogs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Our dear old friend, Major, a chocolate lab, has gone to where ever
>>>>> good dogs go when they die.  He was 13.  I don't like doglessness and
>>>>> in my entire life I've spent very little time without a dog or two
>>>>> around the house.  So after a few days of mourning, we went out and 
>>>>> got
>>>>> a new puppy.  I've had a long string of very large dogs--labs and
>>>>> shepherds--but we decided to make life a little easier and get a
>>>>> smaller breed this time around.  We picked out a 10 week old miniature
>>>>> black poodle and named him Rio.   (see attached)
>>>>>
>>>>> Because of Major's bigness, we didn't take him sailing much, but we
>>>>> hope to get Rio acclimated on the sailboat and I was wondering if
>>>>> anybody had some good advice on dogs aboard.  West Marine sells doggy
>>>>> floatation vests with handles on the top to easily get them in or out
>>>>> of the water.  (not doable with a big lab--he had to learn to get up
>>>>> the boarding ladder!)  Not to gross anybody out, but I'm wondering
>>>>> about training him to do his little business on the fore deck where a
>>>>> bucket of water will wash it away.  Any thoughts from you dog-owners
>>>>> out there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Slim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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