[Rhodes22-list] water in the lazerette?

Sun Jul 31 11:20:12 EDT 2005

no tube... just open... at least into the foam... don't know how much "air" 
space there is but I've seen others discuss running wires and such back thru 
there unless I didn't understand the posts... often I fly thru them...

Saroj

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
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Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 7:36 AM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] water in the lazerette?

Saroj:
You have been on this list long enough to know that Sir Stanley
modifies the construction of the boats each time he makes one.  I have no
such tubie.

Phyllis:
Everyone has talked around your question.  Water in the Lazerette is
bad.  Newer boats are painted in the Lazerette to provide a degree of
waterproofing.  Older boats have fiberglass exposed which is porous.  The
foam on older boats is often exposed, which allows seepage.
Water in the bilge on most boats comes from water getting into the
cabin area.  See extensive past discussions on this subject and FAQ's.  It
is bad.
Water outside the hull is normal.  The gel coat is the
waterproofing.  You need to get a book on fiberglass boat construction.
Many good books on this subject have been recommended in the past on this
list.  One to start with would be Fiber Glass Boats by John Roberts.

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA
Addendum:  "When the best leader's work is done, the people say 'We did it
ourselves!'".

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Saroj Gilbert
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:49 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How bad is some water in the laz?

In my Rhodes22, there is a continuous passage from the laz into the cabin
and thus the bilge... don't know about others, but I thought this was
common.  The scuppers are really not large enough and I considered
increasing the size to 3/4 inch or 1 inch to reduce the problem here... it
doesn't take many leaves to clog them as they are.  You might consider doing

this if you are doing a lot of work anyway.

I believe that much of the water that gets into my cabin also comes in thru
the CB line scupper... the tube that this line goes thru has pulled away
from the fitting that goes into the CB casing and is too short to reconnect.

I'm going to have to fit another longer tube into this space and thread the
line thru it and back up thru the scupper.

I also have rain coming in thru the front port lights which need to be
rebedded at which time I'll replace the screens...  some folks have
installed canvas covers over these front opening ports to reduce the
accumulation of water there.

If my battery gets too low so that the bilge pump no longer pumps, I get
significant water in the bilge and cabin floor over time.  If this becomes a

substantial amount, the rigid foam seems to absorb it and then leaches it
out  so that water accumulates in the bilge even after the initial quantity
is pumped out..  I'm only guessing on this last point as I can't figure out
why water continues to drain although the laz appears dry and the bilge
float is no longer activating the pump (until the water level gets high
enough to activate the switch again)..

Saroj

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "P&M Beals" <beals at rci.rutgers.edu>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How bad is some water in the laz?

> Rummy,
>
> I didn't realize that
> water that might be due to rainfall into the laz would not travel down
> into
> the bilge... .I thought there is a continuous open pathway from cabin to
> stern & vice versa. I can see what I think is foam flotation material when

> I
> look into the lazarette and try to look forward...but I haven't understood
> too well what is under there, or which areas are blocked or separated from
> others...
>
> If only one could get the up close view that Lou or Alan have, I would
> probably understand the vessel a lot better!
>
> One more thing to do in my not so spare time...check for leaks, but easily
> done may be checking those drain holes...I did have a bunch of leaves get
> into the cockpit last fall...
>
> Hopefully a good sailing day tomorrow with three teen-agers aboard.
> I took my first dip off the boat last weekend...in only 4 feet of water.
> You have to love that ladder. I managed to scrub the sides a bit. despite
> a
> thorough bottom paint job I still have picked up 4-5 barnacles...at the
> bow
> almost near the waterline which I thought was odd.  who knows what is
> underneath which can't even be seen.
>
> Oh you lucky lake sailors...any zebra mussels get into your lake?   (I
> know
> about the Great Lakes zebra mussels).
>
> There is an R-22 owner on Raritan Bay, anchored next to me.  He sails
> single
> handedly many days in the season with a traditional mainsail, and seems to
> have quite a great time...I would like to compare the traditional mainsail
> sailing with the IMF...maybe I will get to go out on his boat.  He rows
> his
> dinghy out to his boat while we catch a launch, that's why it's been hard
> to
> get acquainted.
>
> Anyway-
>
> Thanks again,
> Phyllis
>
>> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:26:50 EDT
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How bad is some water in the laz?
>>
>> Phyllis,
>> The only way water can get into the laz is over the rim of the cover.
>> This
>> can happen due to the rear drains getting clogged, or have hardened and
>> cracked,  or in our case, because of more rain that the drains can
>> handle.
>> Water in
>> the bilge means that water is entering the cabin. This can come from
>> several
>> areas. The most suspect ones are the ports, the companionway hatch and
>> the
>> centerboard pennant tubing. These are problems that can be diagnosed and
>> fixed
>> easily, it just takes time and perseverance. Place someone inside the
>> cabin
>> and have someone on the outside take a hose a spray everything down. I
>> would
>> recommend having an outline drawing made up ahead of time to note the
>> areas
>> of leakage.
>>
>> Rummy
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