[Rhodes22-list] mast raising procedures

[Slim]

OK, I just looked it up and a bale is a group of turtles.  8-)

On 6/11/05 3:58 AM, "Slim" <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:

> Bale or bail or behl or bayl...can I get a ruling on this?
> 
> On 6/11/05 3:45 AM, "Slim" <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Ah ha!  There must be many versions of this equipment.
>> 
>> That's exactly right, Peter, and it's the reason why Bill and I and others
>> have had difficulty coming up with a standardized procedure.  For ex, IIRC
>> Rob Lowe uses his trailer winch instead of the GB crane.  Others lower the
>> mast to the bow.  Your hand rail lines are something from the past although
>> I don't know how far back.  Fandango is a 1990 and it came with the 8"
>> extensions that are just a piece of aluminum with holes on each end--one for
>> the turnbuckle and one for the chain plate.  But I've also seen an 8" length
>> of chain used for the extensions.  The newer boats have a "bail" or "bale"
>> (?) about six feet up the mast that's used to hook a line onto the crane
>> instead of the shrouds.  That's better/faster still.
>> 
>> Slim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Raven does not have
>>> 8" extensions, but she does have a mast stabilizing triangulation device,
>>> basically two lines with clips, which are set on an extention of the mast
>>> bolt line on the grab rails and extend up the mast about 6' on each side.
>>> Since the triangulation in on the pivot line, they don't loosen as the mast
>>> goes up.  However, they do add extra steps, to install and remove them.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> I still have the feeling I may be missing something.  What year is Fandango?
>>> 
>>> PT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Slim" <salm at mn.rr.com>
>>> To: "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] mast raising procedures
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Peter,
>>>> 
>>>> The forward lowers should have the 8" extensions added and then connected
>>> to
>>>> their chain plates.  These help to prevent side sway in the mast as it's
>>>> going up (or down)  As the mast gets higher, the upper shrouds take over
>>> to
>>>> prevent the sway.  Both uppers and forward lowers combine to prevent the
>>>> sway.  That leaves the aft lowers available to hook up to the crane.
>>>> 
>>>> I can see where your method (using the forward lowers to the crane) would
>>>> certainly save some time, but it's not as safe.  I usually do this
>>> procedure
>>>> on the water, so any waves or rocking the boat would cause the mast to
>>> sway
>>>> from side to side, so I need to use the four shrouds to prevent that.
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>> 
>>>> Slim
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/10/05 4:37 PM, "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Slim and Bill,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for posting the mast procedures again.  Now that I've tried it a
>>> few
>>>>> times, it makes a lot more sense and the reading is certainly a little
>>> more
>>>>> interesting.  However I was surprised to read the part about connecting
>>> the
>>>>> *aft* lowers to the mast crane.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Raven doesn't seem to be set up that way.  On Raven, the forward lowers
>>> have
>>>>> fast-pins and all the other turnbuckles are fixed with ring-dings.  So,
>>> I
>>>>> connected the forward lowers to the crane and everything worked just
>>> fine -
>>>>> it's actually less work than you both describe.  The fast-pins speed the
>>>>> connection from the crane hoist to the chainplates a little bit too.
>>> When I
>>>>> checked the rig tension with the Loos gauge everything was within specs,
>>>>> except the forward lowers needed a little tightening as one might
>>> expect.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know I'm pretty lucky that Mark and the other previous owners took
>>> such
>>>>> thought and care in setting up Raven quite nicely.  But I still wonder
>>> if I'm
>>>>> missing something:  why do the instructions call for connecting the
>>> *aft*
>>>>> lowers to the crane?  To paraphrase Rumsfeld "I don't know what I don't
>>> know".
>>>>> Does it make a difference which lowers you use?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> PT
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