[Rhodes22-list] Variations on a Theme

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Sat Jun 11 15:38:05 EDT 2005


Todd,

I'd like to go back to the beginning and get every change we can find.  
No, I don't have time for it now, but I think it would be a lot of fun, 
and we could all learn something in the process.  We can discuss why the 
changes were made, and whether they were an improvement from a user 
point of view.

There are big improvements made on later boats that all earlier owners 
would want if they knew to ask.  Left to his own devices, Stan would 
give everything away, so he has no incentive to market these things 
except on new or recycled boats.  We have to price his innovations 
fairly so it pays for him to manufacture them in larger quantities, 
lower his cost, and make some money at the same time.

How much was that inner IMF bearing worth to me?  $1000?  My IMF 
couldn't be reassembled without it.  What were the assembly instructions 
worth?  $250?  Stan, of course, sent it all for free a few days after I 
asked.  His attitude is that it shouldn't have broken in the first 
place.  Fine, but it took him time and effort, and I would willingly 
have paid for it.  If I had done so, it would have been good for all of 
us, because then Stan would have more of a reason to help every existing 
owner.

The 8" aluminum extenders for the mast raising system can be added to 
many existing systems.  They are perfect for the purpose, light in 
weight, and add safety to an inherently dangerous task.  I always keep 
them on board, right where I would know to look for them the 363 days a 
year when I don't need them.

The list could operate its own store if Stan doesn't have the time for 
this.  Stan could still make money on it, without any additional 
hassle.  Again--good for everyone.

During the winter months I will follow up on this if I don't go to the 
Keys, or someone else doesn't pick up on it first.

Bill Effros

Todd Tavares wrote:

>   Bill,
>   How far back do you plan to go listing changes? Will any a   every known change be covered? There were several major noticeable ch   anges made between about 1974 and 1980 involving the c/b pivot and
>   removal    front cabin port   stay atachment brackets ch   cockpit floor round access hatch disco   changed twice, and the rudderhead design changed    move on to newer boats with the IMF and furler changes? :-)   scratches the surface. Then there is the cabin and interior chan   I have pics of most of this. Are you sure you have the time for this?
>      Boats magaz   #7?) for sale on E-
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>
>   Todd
>   [f2_1_b.   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Bill Ef   To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>   Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Variations on a Theme
>   Date: Sat,   >
>   > Slim,
>   >
>   > N   > chan   > how th   > changes ov   > than some   >
>   > The guy with the boat in CT mentioned   > gooseneck of his non-IMF boom which   > Spitzer furler better than the CDI   > many times--the ones I have are just   > lifting mechanism has changed. The gudgeon   > rudder clutch, and think it's the best way   > properly and you know how to use it.
>   &g   > The block on my boom was never rigged properly from the factory   > and I've always had trouble with it--I'm going to figure it out    > this year. Now that I've taken apart my IMF, and Stan told me how    > to put it back together, it will work better than ever before. I'm   > going to add Stan's mast cleat.
>   >
>   > I just took out   > Chlorinated fres   > smell department. <   > etc.
>   >
>   > Bill Effros
>   >
>   >
>   &   > Slim wrote:
>   >
>   > >> Ah ha! There must be ma   > >>
>   > >>
>   >   > > That's exactly right, Peter, and it's the reason why Bi   and others
>   > > have had difficulty coming up with a stan   ex, IIRC
>   > > Rob Lowe uses his trailer wi   lower the
>   > > mast to the bow   past although
>   > > I   the 8"
>   &g   each end   > > the turnbuckle and one for the chain plate. But I'v   an 8" length
>   > > of chain used for the extensions. Th   or "bale"
>   > > (?) about six feet up t   the crane
>   > > instead of    > >
>   > > Slim <   > >
>   > >
>   > > Raven does not have    > >
>   > >
>   > >> 8" extensions, but she does h   triangulation device,
>   > >> basically tw   of the mast
>   > >   each si   > >> Since the triangulation in on the pivot line, they do   as the mast
>   > >> goes up. However, they do add extr   remove them.
>   > >> Thanks.
>   > >   > >> I still have the feeling I may be missing something   is Fandango?
>   > >>
>   > >> PT
>   > &g   > >>
>   > >>
>   > >>
>   > >&   > >> From: "Slim"
>   > >> To: "Rhodes"
>   > &g   > >> Subject: Re: [   > >>
>   > >>    > >>
>   > >>
>   > >>> Peter,
>   > &   > >>> The forward lowers should have the 8" ext   then connected
>   > >>>
>   > >>>   > >> to
>   > >>
>   > >>
>   > >>   mast as it   > >>> going up (or down) As the mast gets higher, the up   take over
>   > >>>
>   > >>>
>   >    > >>
>   > >>
>   > >>> preve   prevent the
>   >   crane.
>   > >>>
>   > >>> I can see where your met   crane) would
>   > >>> cer   this
>   > >   > >>>
>   > >> procedure
>   > >&g   > >>
>   > >>> on the water, so any waves or ro   mast to
>   > >>>
>   > >&   > >> sway
>   > >>
>   > >>
>   >   nt that.
>   > >>>
>   > >>> Hope this helps,
>   &   > >>> Slim
>   > >>>
>   >    > >>>
>   > >>>
>   > >>>
>   > >   > >>>>
>   > >>>   tried it    > >>>>
>   > >>>>
>   > >> few   > >>
>   > >>
>   > >>>> times, it ma   a little
>   > >>   > >>>>
>   > >> more
>   > >>   > >>
>   > >>>> interesting. However I was su   connecting
>   > >>>>
>   >   > >> the
>   > >>
>   > >>   > >>>> *aft* lowers to the mast crane.
>   > >&g   > >>>> Raven doesn't seem to be set up that w   forward lowers
>   > >>>>
>   > >>   > >> have
>   > >>
>   > >>
>   &g   ring-dings. So,
>   > >>>>
>   > >>>>
>   >   > >>
>   > >>
>   > >>>>    worked just
>   &g   > >>>>
>   > >> fine -
>      > >>
>   > >>>> it's actually les   speed the
>   > >>>   bit too.    > >>>>
>   > >>>>
>   > >> When    > >>
>   > >>
>   > >>>> checked the   within specs,
>   > >   mi   > >>>>
>   > >>>>
>   > >> e   > >>
>   > >>
>   > >>>> I know   owners took
>   > >   > >>>>
>   > >> such
>   > >   > >>
>   > >>>> thought and care in setti   still wonder
>   > >>>>
>      > >> if I'm
>   > >>
>   > &   > >>>> missing something: why do the instruction   connecting the
>   > >>>>
>   > >>>&g   > >> *aft*
>   > >>
>   > >>
>   > >   wha   > >>>>
>   > >>>>
>   > >   > >>
>   > >>
>   > >>>> D   > >>>> > >>>> Thanks,
>   > >>>>
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