[Rhodes22-list] Red, Right, Returning

[Hank]

I'm a little confused.  If you have markers on either side of you,
whether they be red/right - green/left or vice versa, aren't you in
the channel?  If you are outside the channel you will have both
markers on one side.  So if Bill W had markers on either side, how did
he run aground?

Hank

On 6/22/05, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> Have we ever talked about this?
> 
> Most of us know the Red, Right, Returning Rule--but we can forget what
> it means, or not know that it is not universal.
> 
> We learn the rules for our home waters, but forget how to apply them
> when we have a lot of other things going on.
> 
> Channels that run parallel to the mainland usually have red on the
> mainland side, but if they fork off to sea, that can switch mid course.
> Also, how you apply the rules changes, depending on which side of (for
> instance) Florida you are sailing, with regard to where you keep the red
> marker when sailing south.  The rule for Intracoastal Channels is
> actually "Red, Right, Clockwise--New England to Texas".
> 
> Watch the numbers on markers.  They increase as you approach the harbor,
> which is how you can know if you are "returning", and which rule is
> meant to apply.  Looking at charts before looking at markers can be
> quite helpful.
> 
> Please note, also, that in many parts of the world the rule is "Green,
> Right, Returning".
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> 
> William E. Wickman wrote:
> 
> >I didn't take any pictures traveling up Core Sound until that night once we
> >got anchored.  I was in survival mode and picture taking was the last thing
> >on my mind.  I didn't see any good anchorages along Core Sound past
> >Atlantic.  The charts looked like there might be something south, but my
> >steerage was really bad at the time and with the deteriorating weather and
> >waves, I didn't want to venture out of the channel at all.  The cut before
> >Cedar Island is pretty well marked, but I was surprised that the waves were
> >almost as rough as Core Sound even though there was a land mass blocking
> >the long fetch that existed in the Sound.  I think the high winds resulted
> >in any open water area being rough.  In calmer weather, navigation would be
> >a walk in the park.  The bridge was a new high rise with plenty of
> >clearance.  The final cut over to West Bay was very narrow and VERY shallow
> >at the edges.  You really have to stay in the channel through this stretch,
> >even with a 20" draft.  I made the mental mistake of passing the green
> >markers to port and red to starboard through the entire channel; or at
> >least until I ran aground north of the bridge.  The channel markers change
> >over once you pass under the bridge to where you should pass with the green
> >to starboard.  I don't know why they did that , but the mistake cost me
> >some anxious moments of getting unstuck while the wind blasted the boat
> >further onto the shoal and the weather called for lightening and gusts up
> >to 60 mph later that evening.  After getting unstuck, there was some really
> >nice anchorage past the cut.  It is all wildlife refuge so there is
> >absolutely no development for miles around.  It is mostly marshland and
> >really quite beautiful.  We rode out the storm nicely there.
> >
> >Bill W.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >Bill:
> >
> >Fantastic, your sunset scene will now replace Peter's!
> >
> >Furthermore, maybe those shots will entice some other Rhodies to the area.
> >
> >Are you hiding anymore?  Did you take any shots while motoring up the
> >channel by Atlantic and Davis?  Did you see any moorings in those areas.
> >How was the trip in the cut before Cedar Island?  Was there a draw bridge
> >involved?  Or is that where they put that new high rise bridge?
> >
> >Whose boat has the line controlled tiller tamer?  I think that might be in
> >order for taking pictures.  I do not have the autopilot.
> >
> >Ed K
> >Greenville, SC, USA
> >
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