[Rhodes22-list] Fw: trailer question

Thu Mar 10 15:57:18 EST 2005

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
To: <astoriii at knology.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 3:56 PM
Subject: trailer question


> John,
>
> My Triad trailer is reassembled and now I can help you.  A R22 Triad
trailer
> is a non-adjustable trailer elegantly designed by Stan specifically to
hold
> the R22.  I can't imagine it would fit any other boat because it does not
> adjust at all.  Please look at the attached picture first, so hopefully
this
> will make some sense to you.
>
> The cradle portion of the trailer fits within a rectangle 70.25" wide by
118
> 3/4" long.  There are four corner posts that provide "hard" support at the
> corners only.   The rear posts are 70.25" apart at the long point.  The
> front posts are 54" apart at the long point.   A 2x6 bunk attaches to
these
> fore and aft supports and flexes when the weight of the boat is applied.
> Therefore, the only significant measurements I can give you are the
> elevation of the corner supports above the top of the cradle plane.  These
> are measured from the top of the cradle plane to the elevation long point
of
> the 2x6 bunk.  Also, the 2x6 fore and aft bunks are set at different
angles.
> This causes the bunks to twist like a reaching mainsail without a vang.
> This arrangement works wonderfully to cradle a R22 with good support along
> the bunks.  The design is extremely thoughtful, shows lots of engineering
> savvy and works very well.
>
> Rear posts        19" elevation        30 degree angle
> Front posts       18" elevation        45 degree angle
>
> The boat is supported entirely by the bunks and there is an air gap
between
> the keel and the keel roller when the boat is on the trailer, making this
> design unlike any other keel/CB trailer I have ever seen. The top of the
> keel roller is about 4" below the top of the cradle plane.  The axle is
68"
> forward of the rear bunk posts (long point) and 14" forward of the keel
> roller (centerline) - all are centerline measurements.
>
> One more important thing!  Before you get your bunks and/or rollers too
> adjusted, it would be a great idea to check your tongue weight.  If your
> vehicle can handle it, 400 pounds on the ball produces excellent results.
> The only good way I know to measure tongue weight is with a tongue weight
> scale. http://www.sherline.com/lm.htm  Getting this part right can be a
life
> and death matter, so the small investment for a scale seems worthwhile to
> me.
>
> I hope this information helps you.  Good luck adjusting your generic
trailer
> to fit your Rhodes.
>
> Fair winds,
>
> PT
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <astoriii at knology.net>
> To: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Re: trailer question
>
>
> > PT the height of the bunks and width they are apart are what i need. i
> > have taken the trailer to a trailer shop for a overhaul. the trailer is
> > only gunna be used to bring the boat to my house for some new windows
and
> > minor repairs before i get the bottom job done this year. thanks for the
> > reply! john
> > On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 21:10:03 -0500, "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
wrote
> :
> >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > As I understand it, you just want some measurements from a R22
trailer,
> > so
> > > you can adjust your generic trailer to fit your RC, right?
> > >
> > > I have a 2003 triad trailer at my garage right now because I'm fixing
it
> > up
> > > with a few improvements prior to putting it under my R22 for the
season.
> > > Currently, all the bunks are off the trailer.  In a few days they will
> > all
> > > be back on and if you are patient I may be able to help you.  Exactly
> > what
> > > measurements do you need?
> > >
> > > PT
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 8:57 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Re: trailer question
> > >
> > >
> > > > Wow!
> > > >
> > > > Hang in there, John.  There are people on the list who have done
what
> > > > you are trying to do.  There are some proprietary issues
here--copying
> > > > Stan's designs without paying Stan for his intellectual property.
We
> > > > have all gone over this issue many times, and you are catching some
of
> > > > the blow back.
> > > >
> > > > Just wait, and check the list.  More sympathetic answers are
> > forthcoming.
> > > >
> > > > Bill Effros
> > > >
> > > > Roger Pihlaja wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >John,
> > > > >
> > > > >Without knowing the exact make and model of the trailer, it's a
> little
> > > hard
> > > > >to give you instructions regarding setup to fit a Rhodes 22 hull.
I
> > am
> > > > >assuming the basic GVWR on the trailer is at least 3500 lbs and the
> > > trailer
> > > > >has some sort of brakes.  If not, then forget it, the trailer is
too
> > > small.
> > > > >Since you are asking the question, I conclude you've never done
this
> > > before
> > > > >because virtually any trailer can setup to fit any boat without any
> > > > >documentation.  Therefore, since you don't know what you are doing,
> > for
> > > your
> > > > >own safety and the safety of those who will share the roads with
you,
> > I
> > > > >strongly recommend you take the boat & trailer to a competent
trailer
> > > boat
> > > > >dealer.   I will have no part in helping you endanger yourself and
> > > everyone
> > > > >else on the road.
> > > > >
> > > > >Roger Pihlaja
> > > > >S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: <astoriii at knology.net>
> > > > >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 12:15 PM
> > > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Re: trailer question
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>stan suggested i e-mail u about my trailer question. thanks john
> > > > >>------------- Forwarded message follows -------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >>sorry, we do not have that kind of service - you might try
> > > > >>
> > > > >> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > >>
> > > > >>gbi
> > > > >>
> > > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>From: <astoriii at knology.net>
> > > > >>To: <wwrhodes at rhodes22.com>
> > > > >>Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 12:00 AM
> > > > >>Subject: trailer question
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>hi! my name is john fortune and i have a 1975 22ft rhodes
> > continental.
> > > i
> > > > >>>was given a sailboat trailer and i'm trying to fit it up with my
> > boat.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >do
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>>you have any documentation or specifications for the trailer on
the
> > > > >>>website. basically the height and width of the rails. any info
> > would be
> > > > >>>appreciated. thanks!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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