[Rhodes22-list] Generator

Thu Mar 31 23:30:21 EST 2005

Oh heck Bill I never lambasted anyone. ;-)

I know Ric has a Honda but I am not sure if he ever used on his Rhodes. They 
scare me a little on small boats like ours. A couple of years ago three 
people were airlifted from our marina overhwlemed by fumes on their big 
Carver cruiser. Supposedly the guy had 3 carbon monoxide detecters. On a 
boat like Brads he may have plenty of room. I would still suggest one of the 
jump starter packs. They are prety cheap. If you put a generator on your 
boat be careful.

Wally

>From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
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>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Generator
>Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:21:56 -0500
>
>Sorry, Wally,
>
>Who was the other guy we were lambasting?
>
>Bill Effros
>
>Wally Buck wrote:
>
>>I haven't had the need for a generator so I really didn't comment back 
>>then. For my use they are overkill but I could see how they could be 
>>handy. What about one of those jump start battery packs? My buddy just 
>>restored a boat from the 70s and his motor has a hand crank. I thought 
>>that was pretty nice. You need to know how to use crank so you don't get 
>>hurt. :-)
>>
>>Wally
>>
>>>From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Generator
>>>Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:45:00 -0500
>>>
>>>Sorry about the lambasting.  I think I was on the lambasting side of the 
>>>equation, although I think my role would better be characterized as 
>>>ridiculing.
>>>
>>>Then I stumbled across one, and was really surprised about how quiet it 
>>>was.
>>>
>>>Sadly, I had trashed all the email in this thread, thinking it would 
>>>never apply to me.
>>>
>>>Now I'm thinking it might be a really useful thing to carry aboard.  Your 
>>>situation is just one example.  But it also might be useful as a hybrid 
>>>gas/electric propulsion system in a pinch.  We are already carrying the 
>>>gas on board, so that's no big thing.  The small generators run on a 
>>>thimbleful of gas.  The little Honda runs around $700.
>>>
>>>As I remember, you and Wally (?) had some interesting storage and 
>>>mounting ideas.
>>>
>>>Again, sorry about the lambasting.
>>>
>>>Bill Effros
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>brad haslett wrote:
>>>
>>>>Bill,
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, I started that discussion and pretty well got
>>>>lambasted for it.  The last issue of Practical Sailor
>>>>did a review on small generators and chose the Yamaha
>>>>by a slight edge over my Honda.  It was my intent to
>>>>take it with me on this trip but was one of a dozen
>>>>items left behind.  A small generator on board would
>>>>have definitely solved our problem of low batteries. I've thought about 
>>>>leaving it on the boat but it saved
>>>>our arse at home during hurricane Elvis last year, and
>>>>kept us from losing all our food after going without
>>>>power for three days.
>>>>
>>>>Brad
>>>>--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Brad,
>>>>>
>>>>>Weren't you part of the small portable generator
>>>>>discussion?  The more I've thought about it, (and after hearing how
>>>>>quietly they run) the more interested I've become in that idea.
>>>>>
>>>>>Did you decide against it?  Wouldn't that have
>>>>>solved your problem?
>>>>>
>>>>>Bill Effros
>>>>>
>>>>>brad haslett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Anne,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Let's not be to harsh on the Bohemians.  I'm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>beginning
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>to think of myself as a Bohemian sailor.  My oldest
>>>>>>boy and his friends survived Spring Break on the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>boat,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>the boat didn't fare as well.  They stayed up all
>>>>>>night partying while I slept in the aft cabin.  The
>>>>>>second morning we cranked the engine and motored
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>about 30 minutes until the wind picked up, and then
>>>>>>raised the sails and a few toasts.  When the wind
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>died
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>down we stowed canvas and attempted to start the
>>>>>>diesel ginny.  Click, Click, Click!  My battery
>>>>>>charger quit a couple of months ago (it was a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>salvage
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>unit off the Mayflower), the replacement is on
>>>>>>backorder from Sailnet, and apparently we didn't
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>motor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>enough to recover from the gazillion hours of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>stereo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>use.  "Not to worry boys!  Its a sailboat!"  The
>>>>>>current was drifting us pretty quickly to a rocky
>>>>>>shore so I unstowed the main, manned the helm, and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>had
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Spencer man the halyard winch.  I'm not sure what
>>>>>>happened but when the main was fully-up it had
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>about a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>two-foot tear in the top panel.  We sailed back to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>inlet to my marina with what wind (and sail)we had
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>then flagged down a pontoon boat for a tow.  Not
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>just
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>any pontoon boat, a 350 cubic inch V-8 powered
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>pontoon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>boat (didn't know they made such a thing).  I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>pulled
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>the main off the boat, threw it in a sailbag for
>>>>>>repairs, and pressed on with the week.  I purchased
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>cheap battery charger from Wal-Mart to finish the
>>>>>>week's frivolities and sailed on the ginnies, both
>>>>>>iron and fabric.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Now here's the deal:  my old main was pretty tired
>>>>>>anyway.  Last year I debated replacing it but sent
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>it
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>to SailCare instead.  It came back still somewhat
>>>>>>dingy and baggy, unlike the sails I sent to them
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>off
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>the Rhodes-22.  You can only do so much with an old
>>>>>>sail.  Replacement costs run from $900+ to $2000
>>>>>>depending on the vendor and features.  I'm debating
>>>>>>going to a Doyle StackPack.  They haven't given me
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>quote yet but I understand its quite expensive.  Do
>>>>>>you or anyone on the list have any experience with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>StackPack or know anyone who does?  If my boat were
>>>>>>newer I might consider boom-furling but it doesn't
>>>>>>make economic sense now.  Of course, I could just
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>sell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>the damn thing, get another Rhodes-22, and build a
>>>>>>cabin on the lake which is what I wanted to do in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>first place!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Brad Haslett
>>>>>>s/v "CoraShen"  (Bohemian registry)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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