[Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war

Fri May 20 15:01:04 EDT 2005

You don't measure "commitment" to a cause by the casualties, but by the number dedicated to the cause. But, even using your (faulty) logic, no, 50,000 killed over a 10 year period was not much of a commitment. Look back at the previous victory. How many did we commit to WWII in that war, and in how long a time? Feel free to use your (faulty) logic of counting the dead.

Herb Parsons

S/V O'Jure
  1976 O'Day 25
  Lake Grapevine, N TX

S/V Reve de Papa
  1971 Coronado 35
  Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast

>>> salm at mn.rr.com 5/19/2005 2:44:31 PM >>>
So you're saying the problem was that MORE people weren't killed?  50,000 +
dead isn't a commitment?

On 5/19/05 2:37 PM, "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> LBJ only problem was he didn't have the balls to
> commit fully to the war.  When there is a war, you get
> behind it, support it, and go all out to win at any
> cost.  Fonda is just another one of those bleeding
> hearth liberal and has to much money and not any
> scents.  
> 
> It a good thing she wasn't able to do something like
> that durning WWII; Paton would have had her shot:-)
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> --- Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
> 
>> OK, Steve, let's give credit where it's due:  LBJ
>> worked a lot harder and
>> was much more successful at getting many more of our
>> soldiers killed than
>> Fonda.
>> Slim
>> 
>> On 5/19/05 2:17 PM, "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Cheryl
>>> I just don't know why anyone would make fun of
>> Jane
>>> Fonda:-)  She work her heart out at getting our
>>> soldiers killed!!!!!!!!! You got to give credit
>> where
>>> credit is due:-)
>>> Steve
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- Cheryl O'Grady <cheryl.ogrady at mail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I love when people express their opinions openly,
>>>> and it generates discussion.  I probably jump in
>>>> with both feet TOO often, and end up with said
>> feet
>>>> in mouth.  but I have gotten several messages
>> from
>>>> someone I don't know.  The first time, I just
>> pretty
>>>> much ignored it, other than sending back a "who
>> are
>>>> you" note.  then, I don't know why, but I
>> identified
>>>> him from an old R-22 list note.  I went back in
>> my
>>>> old mail, couldn't find him, but I am pretty sure
>>>> that it was related to one of our boat search
>>>> messaages.
>>>> 
>>>> It was clearly not spam, and I did send back a
>>>> not-so-friendly reply.  I do have some rather
>>>> out-in-left-field ideas, and I objected to his
>>>> demonization of Jane Fonda.  I will forward the
>>>> message on to you, maybe you are familiar with
>> the
>>>> guy.
>>>> 
>>>> What I objected to was not that there were
>> political
>>>> conversations on the list, I haven't really seen
>> too
>>>> many, but that he is sending me email separately
>> and
>>>> including my e-address in notes that go to the
>>>> world.  I would personally put up any of my
>> opinions
>>>> I wanted to share on the list, not go off list,
>> and
>>>> not use the list for any other purposes.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheryl
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
>>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Cheryl what did you
>>>> get?
>>>> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:53:34 -0400
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheryl,
>>>>> Would you elaborate?  What did you get in the
>> way
>>>> of political
>>>>> screed??
>>>>> Maybe you and Mark are not on the same page?  I
>>>> have not seen much
>>>>> overtly political on the list lately.
>>>>> I run two sets of filters to stop spam and when
>>>> some gets your
>>>>> direct email address, no matter how, they can
>>>> devise email spams to get by
>>>>> them.  I am now occasionally getting funky stuff
>>>> from Germany.
>>>>> Again, what happened?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ed K
>>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>> Political Addendum:
>>>>> Killing the human spirit
>>>>> What do I mean by the return of the spirit [to
>>>> the workplace].
>>>>> First, let me quote Ayn Rand about spirit: "The
>>>> quickest way to kill the
>>>>> human spirit is to ask someone to do mediocre
>>>> work."
>>>>> When business and government were asking people
>>>> not to do their
>>>>> best, they were telling the workers, in essence,
>>>> to lie to their customers.
>>>>> Even though the workers knew they could have
>> done
>>>> better, they weren't
>>>>> supposed to. Because the old paradigm preached
>>>> that to do it right the first
>>>>> time cost too much.
>>>>> The cost that was never build into that
>> statement
>>>> was the cost of
>>>>> the workers' integrity. Not doing your best but
>>>> presenting it as your best
>>>>> is a lie. And lying corrupts the soul.
>>>>> Joel Arthur Barker, Paradigms: The Business of
>>>> Discovering the
>>>>> Future. (New York: HarperCollins Publishers),
>> 1993
>>>> (1992), p. 137.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is
>>>> that good men do nothing."  Edmund Burke, Irish
>>>> philosopher
>>>> 
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