[Rhodes22-list] Cheryl what did you get?
Wally Buck
tnrhodey at hotmail.com
Sat May 21 09:12:43 EDT 2005
Deena,
My father served in the military for 30 years. I would never blame the
troops for following orders and performing thier duty. Those that spat on
them deserve to have thier ass kicked.
Hope you all get out on the water this weekend. I know I will!
Wally
>From: "Deena" <pestyone57 at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Cheryl what did you get?
>Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 08:28:17 -0400
>
>After Nixon began carpet-bombing they were about to surrender, until the us
>media with
>Someone's help turned the American people against the soldiers. They threw
>feces and
>Spat on them as the soldiers re-entered the us through Bangor Maine amoung
>many other things.
>Steve is right, we shouldn't have been there, but don't punish the
>soldiers.
>
>Deena
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Wally Buck
>Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 8:15 AM
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cheryl what did you get?
>
>Steve,
>
>No Jane Fonda fan here either but we should have never been over there to
>start with. Viet Nam taught those who paid attention that our elected and
>military leaders can not always be trusted. It is a shame we put so many of
>our own in harm's way. Read McNamras book that came out a few years ago.
>
>To put things in perspective we put a lot more effort into Viet Nam than we
>did in Iraq. Don't under estimate the will of the Viet Cong. We bombed that
>crap out of that country. The total tonnage of bombs dropped was greater
>than WWI and WWII combined. We had 500,000 in country; much more than in
>Iraq. Plus they had the backing of China and USSR.
>
>Wally
>
>
> >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cheryl what did you get?
> >Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:37:31 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >LBJ only problem was he didn't have the balls to
> >commit fully to the war. When there is a war, you get
> >behind it, support it, and go all out to win at any
> >cost. Fonda is just another one of those bleeding
> >hearth liberal and has to much money and not any
> >scents.
> >
> >It a good thing she wasn't able to do something like
> >that durning WWII; Paton would have had her shot:-)
> >Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > OK, Steve, let's give credit where it's due: LBJ
> > > worked a lot harder and
> > > was much more successful at getting many more of our
> > > soldiers killed than
> > > Fonda.
> > > Slim
> > >
> > > On 5/19/05 2:17 PM, "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Cheryl
> > > > I just don't know why anyone would make fun of
> > > Jane
> > > > Fonda:-) She work her heart out at getting our
> > > > soldiers killed!!!!!!!!! You got to give credit
> > > where
> > > > credit is due:-)
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Cheryl O'Grady <cheryl.ogrady at mail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I love when people express their opinions openly,
> > > >> and it generates discussion. I probably jump in
> > > >> with both feet TOO often, and end up with said
> > > feet
> > > >> in mouth. but I have gotten several messages
> > > from
> > > >> someone I don't know. The first time, I just
> > > pretty
> > > >> much ignored it, other than sending back a "who
> > > are
> > > >> you" note. then, I don't know why, but I
> > > identified
> > > >> him from an old R-22 list note. I went back in
> > > my
> > > >> old mail, couldn't find him, but I am pretty sure
> > > >> that it was related to one of our boat search
> > > >> messaages.
> > > >>
> > > >> It was clearly not spam, and I did send back a
> > > >> not-so-friendly reply. I do have some rather
> > > >> out-in-left-field ideas, and I objected to his
> > > >> demonization of Jane Fonda. I will forward the
> > > >> message on to you, maybe you are familiar with
> > > the
> > > >> guy.
> > > >>
> > > >> What I objected to was not that there were
> > > political
> > > >> conversations on the list, I haven't really seen
> > > too
> > > >> many, but that he is sending me email separately
> > > and
> > > >> including my e-address in notes that go to the
> > > >> world. I would personally put up any of my
> > > opinions
> > > >> I wanted to share on the list, not go off list,
> > > and
> > > >> not use the list for any other purposes.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheryl
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> > > >> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > > >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Cheryl what did you
> > > >> get?
> > > >> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:53:34 -0400
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Cheryl,
> > > >>> Would you elaborate? What did you get in the
> > > way
> > > >> of political
> > > >>> screed??
> > > >>> Maybe you and Mark are not on the same page? I
> > > >> have not seen much
> > > >>> overtly political on the list lately.
> > > >>> I run two sets of filters to stop spam and when
> > > >> some gets your
> > > >>> direct email address, no matter how, they can
> > > >> devise email spams to get by
> > > >>> them. I am now occasionally getting funky stuff
> > > >> from Germany.
> > > >>> Again, what happened?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Ed K
> > > >>> Greenville, SC, USA
> > > >>> Political Addendum:
> > > >>> Killing the human spirit
> > > >>> What do I mean by the return of the spirit [to
> > > >> the workplace].
> > > >>> First, let me quote Ayn Rand about spirit: "The
> > > >> quickest way to kill the
> > > >>> human spirit is to ask someone to do mediocre
> > > >> work."
> > > >>> When business and government were asking people
> > > >> not to do their
> > > >>> best, they were telling the workers, in essence,
> > > >> to lie to their customers.
> > > >>> Even though the workers knew they could have
> > > done
> > > >> better, they weren't
> > > >>> supposed to. Because the old paradigm preached
> > > >> that to do it right the first
> > > >>> time cost too much.
> > > >>> The cost that was never build into that
> > > statement
> > > >> was the cost of
> > > >>> the workers' integrity. Not doing your best but
> > > >> presenting it as your best
> > > >>> is a lie. And lying corrupts the soul.
> > > >>> Joel Arthur Barker, Paradigms: The Business of
> > > >> Discovering the
> > > >>> Future. (New York: HarperCollins Publishers),
> > > 1993
> > > >> (1992), p. 137.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is
> > > >> that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke, Irish
> > > >> philosopher
> > > >>
> > > >>
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