[Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war

[Deena]

My husband has always said there is no such thing as an ex-marine.  Once a
marine always a marine, and refers to himself as a former marine since he is
now in the army.  He does wish he stayed in the corp.  May I ask what you
do?  Deena


-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of brad haslett
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 11:43 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war

Deena,

This is a small point to quibble over but you
described your husband as a "retired Marine".  Based
on my experience there is no such thing.  Wouldn't
"recovering Marine" be more appropriate?

Brad

PS:  I work for a quasi-military outfit, the CEO,
Chief Pilot, and a good chunk of the crew force is
"retired" or "former" Marine.


--- Deena <pestyone57 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Unfortunately it is the right choice.  My husband is
> a former US marine, and
> currently a lieutenant colonel (Military
> Intelligence) in the US Army
> stationed at US Central Command.  He was retired and
> called back shortly
> after 911.  He is still on active duty and will do
> another 2 1/2 years.  He
> did not have to go.   It was a declared war and
> there is not going to be a
> draft, at least for sometime since we do have a
> volunteer army and a lot of
> reservists thanks to Clintons draw down. We went
> from an army of 2 1/2
> million to a little more than 400,000 active duty.
> Big drop.   If we were
> not over seas, there would be a lot more deaths here
> in the US.  You would
> be surprised at what the US has already found and
> stopped here.   I have 2
> boys, one who will be appearing in the movie the
> "New World" I wouldn't want
> them to go on any political venture either.  But
> sometimes you have to make
> a stand.  Deena
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf
> Of stan
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 7:51 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war
>
> thanks for the rare sharing, Rummy.
>
> Still waiting for Steve and friends to back up their
> bravado with enlisting
> or Bush to let his daughters sign up.  Maybe war is
> exciting and glamorous
> for some who stay home and hire others - but if it
> really, really, really is
> the right thing to do, as several on the List seem
> to think, then it should
> also be the right thing to declare war, have a fair
> draft for those asked to
> serve and rationing for the fully committed home
> front.  I for one would
> never allow my kids to be taken for any half hearted
> venture where the
> politically correct back up is tax cutting and
> magnetic symbols.
>
> stan, WW11
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war
>
>
> > Herb and all,
> >
> > Neither the body count or the number in country
> had anything to do  with
> > our
> > commitment or lack thereof in Vietnam. When a
> soldier is being fired  upon
> > and
> > has to radio for permission to return fire, that's
> a lack of  commitment.
> > Remember, we didn't have cell phones in those days
> and military  radio's,
> > as good
> > as they were, often couldn't contact anyone. I was
> with an  armored unit
> > in I
> > Corps (DMZ area) from 1970 to 1971 and saw a lot
> of strange  stuff, but
> > having to ask for permission to return fire is the
> one thing that  really
> > burned my
> > butt. Sometimes we just didn't ask for permission
> and pleaded  no radio
> > contact when questioned after the fact. It was
> easier and saved our  butts
> > on many
> > an occasion.
> > The one thing that concerns me when these
> discussions come up on the list
> > is
> > that I doubt that many people on either side of
> the issue know what
> > happens
> > to the human body when it is hit with a fifty
> caliber round or a grenade.
> > Or,
> > when a RPG hits a tank and burns through the
> armament and blows up inside
> > the
> > tank turning those bodies into chipped beef. War
> isn't pretty people. Part
> > of my  duties while in Vietnam were to identify
> bodies at the morgue when
> > they
> > were  brought in from the field. I still have
> nightmares about my
> > experiences,
> > and  don't talk about them very often. The
> decision to go to war has to be
> > taken very  seriously. People talking about body
> counts like your counting
> > cord
> > wood makes  me sick. Take a walk through a
> veterans hospital sometime and
> > meet
> > some of the  walking dead. Your thoughts on war
> will change, I guarantee
> > it.
> > War isn't good  for any living thing.
> > Time to step off the soap box and mix a drink.
> Coke has a new Diet Coke
> > made
> > with Splenda. No more Nutrasweet poisoning. Yeah!
> >
> > Rummy
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