[Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war
Philip Esteban
3drecon at comcast.net
Tue May 24 23:24:22 EDT 2005
I have had to serve (again) for the last two and a half years (and the Army
may send me orders for another two years) and I don't mind doing my duty,
but I believe it should be in our national interest, like "oil" or security,
or other natural resouces as well as saving populations. Usually a
democracy won't murder their own people and by it's nature will not threaten
resources, rather, they will try to sell those resources.
Philip
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Wally Buck
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 8:39 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war
Darn ....who let the dog out - LOL
Wally
>From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: stan <stan at rhodes22.com>,The Rhodes 22 mail list
><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war
>Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 07:23:44 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Stan
>Maybe some people just Recognize the need to help
>people out when they are being murbered, raped,
>sprayed with chemical weapons, etc.
>
>I support the war & any war that helps make people
>free.
>
>Based on the comment you made about me below, since
>you are for the terrorists, why don't YOU just go over
>there and fight with the terrorists:-) See Stan,
>comments like this are stupid, they make no sense.
>When you are the big dog on the plantet; this country
>has to help people that can't help themselves. I know
>liberals only think about themselves and thier welfare
>programs; BUT there are more important things to spend
>money on than lazy Americans who won't work for a
>living. Now if the liberals really wanted to do
>someting for thier fellow man; then they would give up
>all earthly possessions to the government:-) Are you
>going to donate your business Stan???????????? Do it
>for the children!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
>Steve
>
>
>--- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>
> > thanks for the rare sharing, Rummy.
> >
> > Still waiting for Steve and friends to back up their
> > bravado with enlisting
> > or Bush to let his daughters sign up. Maybe war is
> > exciting and glamorous
> > for some who stay home and hire others - but if it
> > really, really, really is
> > the right thing to do, as several on the List seem
> > to think, then it should
> > also be the right thing to declare war, have a fair
> > draft for those asked to
> > serve and rationing for the fully committed home
> > front. I for one would
> > never allow my kids to be taken for any half hearted
> > venture where the
> > politically correct back up is tax cutting and
> > magnetic symbols.
> >
> > stan, WW11
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war
> >
> >
> > > Herb and all,
> > >
> > > Neither the body count or the number in country
> > had anything to do with
> > > our
> > > commitment or lack thereof in Vietnam. When a
> > soldier is being fired upon
> > > and
> > > has to radio for permission to return fire, that's
> > a lack of commitment.
> > > Remember, we didn't have cell phones in those days
> > and military radio's,
> > > as good
> > > as they were, often couldn't contact anyone. I was
> > with an armored unit
> > > in I
> > > Corps (DMZ area) from 1970 to 1971 and saw a lot
> > of strange stuff, but
> > > having to ask for permission to return fire is the
> > one thing that really
> > > burned my
> > > butt. Sometimes we just didn't ask for permission
> > and pleaded no radio
> > > contact when questioned after the fact. It was
> > easier and saved our butts
> > > on many
> > > an occasion.
> > > The one thing that concerns me when these
> > discussions come up on the list
> > > is
> > > that I doubt that many people on either side of
> > the issue know what
> > > happens
> > > to the human body when it is hit with a fifty
> > caliber round or a grenade.
> > > Or,
> > > when a RPG hits a tank and burns through the
> > armament and blows up inside
> > > the
> > > tank turning those bodies into chipped beef. War
> > isn't pretty people. Part
> > > of my duties while in Vietnam were to identify
> > bodies at the morgue when
> > > they
> > > were brought in from the field. I still have
> > nightmares about my
> > > experiences,
> > > and don't talk about them very often. The
> > decision to go to war has to be
> > > taken very seriously. People talking about body
> > counts like your counting
> > > cord
> > > wood makes me sick. Take a walk through a
> > veterans hospital sometime and
> > > meet
> > > some of the walking dead. Your thoughts on war
> > will change, I guarantee
> > > it.
> > > War isn't good for any living thing.
> > > Time to step off the soap box and mix a drink.
> > Coke has a new Diet Coke
> > > made
> > > with Splenda. No more Nutrasweet poisoning. Yeah!
> > >
> > > Rummy
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