[Rhodes22-list] Political: Majority rule Reply to Stan

[Philip Esteban]

Stan,

 No, you are absolutely correct on the 1st Bush issue.  I was there for that
war too.  That is one of the reasons we are having problems with some
factions (like Sadr) now.  If the US, as foreign policy, encourages factions
to oppose a dictator and make tacit promises of aid, then we have a moral
obligation to follow through.

Philip


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Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:36 AM
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yes Ed, but the world is full of Iraq situations - even among countries we
feel we must call our friends.  Where do you want to draw the line?  How
many of our lives do you want to pay?  How much money do you want to invest
instead of putting it into making this country the place it could be?  And
are you sure that we know what we are doing so that it will really work in
the end?  Humans appreciate most what they create on their own.  Change has
to come from within.  The real mistake, in my opinion was when the first
Bush encouraged the north and south to challenge the regime and then left
them hanging without the hardware support they were under the impression
they would be getting..  But I also am out of my league here .......

stan/ec
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From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
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Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:05 AM
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Stan:
The only issue I have with this line is thugs and ruthless.  In Iraq
even if you followed the official line, you were at risk of death or severe
personal injury.  Individuals or minorities could not effect any change to
live a reasonable life.  We who live in America presume a certain amount of
personal safety.  It is just not so, even here.  I will stop here and let
the power shooters continue...

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of stan
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 7:32 AM
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See, we both think alike:  It is easy to be generous with other people's
lives.  Anyone who wants to make the world over in our own image may try to
do so with their own lives.  Why come after mine?

stan/ec


----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Esteban" <3drecon at comcast.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 11:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Political: Majority rule


> It is easy to be generous with other people's labour ($$).  Anyone who
> wants
> to feed the world may try to do so with their own labours.  Why come after
> mine?
>
> Philip
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Robert Skinner
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 11:27 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Political: Majority rule
>
>
> Steve wrote:
>> ...
>> There is a concept in a republic; majority rules.  And
>> that is fare...
>
> 1.  Untempered majority rule is equivalent to tyranny for
>    the minority.  Guess that blacks, jews, latinos, or
>    any but WASPs get no breaks under your rules.
>
> 2.  The use of the word "fare" is ironic.  In the completely
>    free market, if you can't pay for food, you starve.  Of
>    course, desperate people can't steal from you if you cut
>    their hands off, like other fundamentalists...
>
> How do these consequences of what you advocate mesh with
> "compassionate conservatism"?  Or do you agree that this
> phrase is oxymoronic?
>
> Moderation is more than a word.  It is a way of life.
> Blind obedience or pursuit of absolute power is a way
> of death.
>
> Jai Bahgwan,
> /Bob
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