[Rhodes22-list] Public Radio and TV

[Philip Esteban]

The tragedy of the Clinton administration is Clinton had nearly unlimited
political capital and he squandered it on his purient interests.

Philip

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 12:33 PM
To: stan; The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Public Radio and TV


That is exactly the different between us, Stan.
Government is for defence.

In a free society, it is up to the individual to make
thier destination.  Nothing wrong with deregulation.
Govenment has no place in business.  Let people make
the money.  People with incentive should make money.
Lazy poeple should have it hard so they will develope
the incentive needed to make it on thier own.  That is
what is wrong with Welfare; where is no incentive for
people to get off of welfare.

The reason this country has been so strong is because
of freedom.  Freedom of individuals & most importantly
the freedom of businesses.  Business is what drives
this country.  If government overtaxes business, that
will shut this country down in a heartbeat.

As for education, it is the parents responsibility to
see to it that thier kids are educated.  Not
Government.  If your kids are going to a bad public
school; then your responsibility as parents would be
to every night help those kids learn what they didn't
learn in school.

Where we differ is that I believe in freedom where you
believe in Government.  Also, I am always Optimistic
where you are Pessimistic.  Where you are saying that
business could be out to get you.  If a business
screws over to many customers; word will get out and
that business will suffer.  If the business doesn't
correct itself, then if evenutually will go out of
business.  Supply & Demand.

As for the stupid thing, don't think I have called any
particular person stupid but you know, Stan; when the
shoe fix - they got to wear it or because of this free
country they can correct themself.  It is one or the
other Stan.  A person that bury thier head in the sand
- is a blind unknowing person.  What can one say.  We
go on about politic all the time.  What is funny is
that this country is doing Great things under the Bush
Administration and the Liberals are blind to it.  The
list goes on & on of all the great accomplishments
that are taking place under Bush.

Remember the one great accomplishment that Clinton
made to our society - He taught all the children what
a Blow Job was!!!!!!!!!!! Really, what else can be
said.
Steve


--- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

> Steve:
>
> Of course we both want this to be a paradise and of
> course we want people to
> earn their keep.  I know some come out with their
> first words being, "more
> contrast",  but I came out with a hammer in my hand
> (now where did I put my
> sickle?).  It is just that we disagree on how to get
> there.  I think we need
> government to enforce the rules.  I get the feeling
> you are for deregulation
> that allows the shady to take advantage of freedom
> from government
> regulations to screw the rest of us.  That your view
> of how to get to our
> mutual destination is to get government off
> corporate backs and into women's
> interiors. Up to now this country has been so strong
> that we have been able
> to survive our blunders but I am afraid that our
> turning our backs on
> education my not be survivable in this new world.
> Steve, in your well
> meaning e-mails you tend to often use the word
> "stupid".  There are no
> stupid Rhodies no matter their politics, but you
> have to sit where I do to
> appreciate that there is a growing army of stupid
> Americans and that may
> well turn out to be our Achilles heel. There is a
> clothing advertiser whose
> slogan is, "an educated buyer is our best customer".
>  I am afraid the
> Republicans' thinking is that, "the dumbing down of
> America is our best
> voter pool."  At today's college costs I would never
> have made it - nor
> would many others on this List.  You need a
> government that understands
> spending priorities.  During the "greatest
> generation" we went through
> college at government expense and the prosperity
> that followed proved the
> worthiness of that type of policy.  So Steve, if you
> really want to get to
> the same place dummies like me envision, I
> respectfully suggest you
> re-examine at least some of your thinking.
>
> stan/EC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> To: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>; "The Rhodes 22 mail
> list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Public Radio and TV
>
>
> > Stan
> > I am so glad you are coming around.  Make this
> country
> > a paradise.  That is great.  Sounds like you have
> > finally agree that we need to do away with Welfare
> &
> > people need to get jobs & support themselfs.  Now
> that
> > will make this country a true paradise.
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > --- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Agree with you again.  I am a super liberal and
> they
> >> want us to pay.  If
> >> evangelistic congress folk want other countries
> to
> >> be just like the US so
> >> badly, let them cough up their own dough for
> their
> >> forced feeding and stop
> >> stealing the surplus we had and taxes that could
> be
> >> better spent.  For years
> >> I have been preaching:  Make this country a
> paradise
> >> and the rest of the
> >> world will follow.  Mess up what we had going
> here
> >> and you see what the rest
> >> of the world is starting to think about us.
> >>
> >> stan/gbi
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Philip Esteban" <3drecon at comcast.net>
> >> To: <sanderico at earthlink.net>; "'The Rhodes 22
> mail
> >> list'"
> >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 11:10 PM
> >> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Public Radio and TV
> >>
> >>
> >> > Typical of most liberals they want the rest of
> us
> >> to pay.  I agree with
> >> > you,
> >> > if they want it so bad, cough up the dough,
> their
> >> own dough and stop
> >> > stealing tax dollars that are better spent.
> >> >
> >> > Philip
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On
> >> Behalf Of Rik Sandberg
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:18 AM
> >> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Public Radio and
> TV
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Saroj,
> >> >
> >> > Anybody that thinks public radio isn't pushing
> >> their own agenda hasn't
> >> > been listening to it much. I listen to NPR
> quite a
> >> lot because it's
> >> > true, you can get some better news coverage
> than
> >> on most other radio
> >> > stations. BUT, there are times when I have to
> turn
> >> it off because
> >> > there's a few whiny bedwetters that are just
> too
> >> much.
> >> >
> >> > I think, if NPR is such a great thing, the
> folks
> >> that use it should
> >> > contribute to keep it going. They all don't
> want
> >> to hear all that nasty
> >> > corperate advertising but apparently aren't
> bright
> >> enough to figure out
> >> > how all those other radio stations (and the
> people
> >> who work there) make
> >> > their living. I contribute to NPR even though I
> >> don't necessarilly agree
> >> > with much of their left leaning politics. If
> the
> >> people that want NPR
> >> > don't want it bad enough to throw a few bucks
> >> their way in exchange for
> >> > no advertising, I guess it can't be all that
> >> important to them and it
> >> > should fall by the wayside.
> >> >
> >> > Rik
> >> >
> >> > ed kroposki wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>Saroj:
> >> >> Unfortunately your public radio and TV often
> >> promotes a control the
> >> >>masses point of view.  Communism and socialism
> are
> >> political positions
> >> >>used
> >> >>to control individuals.  Big business is
> corporate
> >> control of the
> >> >>individual.  Public radio promotes the same
> thesis
> >> of controlling the
> >> >>individual.
> >> >> Individual freedom whether political,
> >> educational, business is
> >> >>distained by your public media. Public Radio or
> TV
> >> promotes only the view
> >> >>which represent their biased point of view.
> >> >> Has radio reader ever read Natan Saransky's
> book
> >> on Democracy?  Have
> >> >>they promoted writers who espouse individual
> >> freedoms?
> >> >> They advocate just another form of bigness...
> >> >>
> >> >>Ed Kroposki
> >> >>Greenville, SC, USA
> >> >>Addendum:  "As I would not be a slave, so I
> would
> >> not be a master.  This
> >> >>expresses my idea of democracy.  Whatever
> differ
> >> from this, to the extent
> >> > of
> >> >>difference, is no democracy."  A. Lincoln
> >> >>
> >> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> >>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Saroj Gilbert
> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:01 AM
> >> >>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to
> war
> >> >>
> >> >>So we can have a source of news that isn't
> >> massaged to meet the demands of
> >> >>the corporate advertisers....
> >> >>So we aren't bombarded by commercials...
> >> >>So we can listen to the BBC...
> >> >>So we can experience innovation that isn't
> >> dependent on commercially
> >> >>dictated norms...
> >> >>
> >> >>It is mostly subscriber-supported and grant
> >> supported anyhow... but you'll
> >> >>notice more and more that it receives a lot of
> >> commercial support too so
> >> >>it
> >> >>may not be able to maintain its independence.
> >> >>
> >> >>Saroj
> >> >>
> >> >>----- Original Message -----
> >> >>From: "Philip Esteban" <3drecon at comcast.net>
> >> >>To: "'stan'" <stan at rhodes22.com>; "'The Rhodes
> 22
> >> mail list'"
> >> >><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> >>Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:09 PM
> >> >>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to
> war
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>Why, with hundreds of channels available are
> we
> >> funding public radio and
> >> >>>television, but we are told we need our taxes
> >> raised to meet other
> >> >>>requirements?  The government needs to get out
> of
> >> the radio and tv
> >> >>>business.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Philip
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
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