[Rhodes22-list] Re: Voluntary Service

[Daniel Bodnar]

I'd like to chime in on this one.  I have thought about this in the past and think that two or even one year of public service performed right after highs school would be a great idea.  It would help mature some kids, showing them a different perspective to life.  It may motivate sum, based on selection criteria established for the different agencies getting service help.  I believe I once read or heard that although Israel conscripts every kid, not all actually perform military duties.  We certainly have a enough programs in the USA that could benefit from conscripted labor. The National Parks, and Forests, tutoring programs.  low income housing projects, FEMA etc. etc.  I also think that the military could benefit as well.  They are already paying incentives for their "volunteer" army, and if every kid had to do something and the military threw in a bonus, it might be attractive to an even larger group of kids.  I too think that after it got started, no one would think twice about it.  It would be your civic duty ; a step toward your independence.  It would probably also improve the performance of a lot of kids when they got to college.  Two years of hard work will give them some real focus on college and career.

Dan Bodnar,
SV Quality of Life


-----Original Message-----
From: Cheryl O'Grady <cheryl.ogrady at mail.com>
Sent: Nov 11, 2005 10:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] P - Marines

I haven't thought deeply about the actual workings of this, but couldn't we combine a national service with the volunteer army?  After all, noone would have to choose the military, they could choose other forms of civil service.  And those who stayed in after their year of service, that would be voluntary.  I lived in Germany for a little while, and heard about my neighbors' sons who had to do a year of service between high school and university.  Nobody thought twice about it, it was just what you owed your country.  What happened to the American value of service to the nation?

>   The potential for abuse of power under such insulation is
> something that we all need to consider.

 this administration scares the poo out of me, for just such a reason.

----- Original Message -----
From: "D&D Stice" <dstice at sisna.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] P - Marines
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:31:08 -0700

> 
> The current pentagon and political administration by its own words does not
> want a draft or mandatory army.  They are much happier with a professional,
> dedicated army that is more capable but also more insulated from the
> citizenry.  The potential for abuse of power under such insulation is
> something that we all need to consider.
> 
> David Stice
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cheryl O'Grady" <cheryl.ogrady at mail.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 2:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] P - Marines
> 
> 
> My dad is a Marine, fought in Korea, darn near died, but he made it home.
> 
> In my humble opinion, it would benefit every young man and young woman
> graduating from high school to have to do a year's service, whether it be
> military or civil service, it would change their outlook on life and perhaps
> even give them a direction to their lives that wasn't there before.  It
> wouldn't be a draft, rather a year of service to the country.  For the ones
> who go into military service, it would help them grow up as in the anecdote
> below.
> 
> Not only that, if the sons and daughters of our congressmen and our
> president and our secretary of defense might have to actually go to war and
> be shot at, maybe they would think 3 or 4 times before sending our troops
> into an ill-conceived, poorly executed, and ill-equipped war.
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > For all of those that have son's or daughter's at
> > bootcamp let me pass on what I found. Let me give you
> > a little back ground first. When my son left home he
> > had no motivation, he was lazy, slobby, no pride, no
> > self worth. This is the boy that got off the bus March
> > 18th at Parris Island. The man that I met on Thursday
> > for parents day is AWESOME. There is no way I can
> > describe to you all the difference. He looks
> > different, he walks different, he talks different, he
> > has such a sense of bearing and pride all I could do
> > was look at him in awe. Oh yes, the training is hard,
> > what he went through is unimaginable to any one that
> > has not been there. They are definitely taught to be
> > Warriors. Let me tell you the surprise of what else
> > they are taught. My Marine son has better values,
> > better morals, better manners than any one I know. It
> > is so much more than Yes Sir, Yes Mam...so much more.
> > He cares about how he looks, he cares about what he
> > does, and its not a boastful, bad ass thing. He is a
> > true gentleman. I saw patience, and a calmness in him
> > that I have never seen. I could never express my
> > gratitude enough to the Marine Corps for what they
> > have given my son. I know this, I have an 11 year old
> > Devil pup still at home. When the time comes for his
> > turn if I had to I would take him kicking and
> > screaming all the way. Although I'm sure that will not
> > happen. The hero worship I see in my younger sons eyes
> > for his Marine brother tells me I will have two
> > Marines in the family, and I will be one very proud
> > mother.
> > "Cybil", Mother of a Marine writing to the myMarine
> > Group
> >
> >
> 
> 
> "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
> Edmund Burke, Irish philosopher
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