[Rhodes22-list] (political) response to Bob Skinner's post

[Cheryl O'Grady]

Well said, Wally:
>Our governent used 911 to go into Iraq. It seems 
>pretty clear to me. Do you think we would have attacked Iraq when we 
>did if there were no 911? 

Hell, no, the only way they could sell invading Iraq was that they tied it into getting the guys who got us!



----- Original Message -----
From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] (political) response to Bob Skinner's post
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:02:54 -0500

> 
> Herb,
> 
> I am not sure if you are asking me....but I thought I made it 
> clear. I did say Clinton dodged the draft. So yes I think he was a 
> draft dodger. Does that make you feel better? So what does that 
> prove? Does this change anything regarding Iraq? If it matters, I 
> did not vote for Clinton!
> 
> Perhaps the term draft dodger carries different meanings for some 
> but as I said (I thought clearly) there were many ways to doge the 
> draft. The real point of dodging the draft was to avoid going to 
> Viet Nam. If you can't understand this I think you are being a 
> little stubborn. Reread my previous post!
> 
> Let's face it, the real issue is....how are we going to get out of 
> the mess our current leaders got us in to? I for one have been 
> against going to war from day one. It would not matter if a Dem or 
> Rep. led us into the mess. The mess would be the same. Clearly we 
> reacted on bad intelligence. You were sold a bill of goods. Now you 
> want to wag your finger at others who had the sense to see the 
> folly for what it is. Our governent used 911 to go into Iraq. It 
> seems pretty clear to me. Do you think we would have attacked Iraq 
> when we did if there were no 911? If you think that then you really 
> don't have a clue.
> 
> As I said no comment here is going to change the opinion of others.
> 
> Wally
> 
> 
> > From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> > Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] (political) response to Bob Skinner's post
> > Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:42:56 -0600
> >
> > My question remains,
> >
> > Do you think Clinton was a "draft dodger"?
> >
> > Herb Parsons
> >
> > S/V O'Jure
> >   1976 O'Day 25
> >   Lake Grapevine, N TX
> >
> > S/V Reve de Papa
> >   1971 Coronado 35
> >   Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
> >
> > >>> tnrhodey at hotmail.com 11/21/2005 2:19:55 PM >>>
> > Herb,
> >
> > My post was somewhat tongue in cheek.
> >
> > There were many different ways to dodge the draft. some illegal, some legal.
> > Many think that our President got into the reserves by way of politcal
> > favors. While in the Reserves there seems to be some debate ragarding how
> > well he lived up to his obligations. Clinton came from a pretty humble
> > background. His family didn't have the weight to pull political strings.
> > Yeah he avoided the war. He didn't break any laws and yes he successfully
> > dodged the draft.
> >
> > The fact is none of these posts will ever change any of our minds.
> >
> > Fair winds,
> >
> > Wally
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] (political) response to Bob Skinner's post
> > >Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:06 -0600
> > >
> > >Sure I was, but that doesn't answer ANY of my three questions.
> > >
> > >I realize that MOST of those that joined the guard were trying to avoid
> > >Vietnam. That's not what is normally meant by the term "draft dodfer"
> > >(which usually refers to those that illegally ran from the draft). even
> > >Rummy doesn't call them "draft dodgers."
> > >
> > >I'm still hoping to hear how Clinton fit in Cheryl's definition of the
> > >term. I suspect she'll have one set of definitions for "her choice", and a
> > >different set for others, much like th 5 percent issue on exit polls.
> > >___
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> > >
> > >..... Original Message .......
> > >On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:54:00 -0500 "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > >wrote:
> > > >Herb,
> > > >
> > > >Surely you were aware of this?
> > > >
> > > >Wally
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> > > >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] (political) response to Bob Skinner's post
> > > >>Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:43:44 EST
> > > >>
> > > >>Herb,
> > > >>There was only one reason young men joined the National Guard in those
> > >days
> > > >>and it wasn't because they looked good in a uniform. I wouldn't call
> > >them
> > > >>draft  dodgers, but it removed them from harms way and we all know
> > >people
> > > >>in high
> > > >>places used political connections to get their kids in the guard.
> > >Something
> > > >>that  wasn't available to the underprivileged.
> > > >>
> > > >>Rummy
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