[Rhodes22-list] Carb problems with NISSAN outboards?

Tue Nov 22 23:05:25 EST 2005

Jim,

As I understand it, all electric starting motors recharge batteries.  
Some may require a wire to be rigged up, but all will do it.  I have the 
Tohatsu 8, electric start, and I also have a Link 10 electrical 
monitor.  I also use the engine primarily just to get into and out of a 
mooring field.  I was surprised at how much juice the engine puts back 
into the battery in a very short time as measured by my meter.  It 
always returns more electricity than was required to start the engine.

I have 2 solar panels, 2 batteries, and the Tohatsu.  I never take the 
batteries off the boat, summer or winter.  They are never recharged 
using shore power.  They maintain high voltages (13.25-14.05) for their 
entire extended lives.  My batteries routinely last for more than double 
their expected lives.  I have far more power on board than I have ever 
needed, and I'm never careful with it.

I suspect you are underestimating the amount of electricity your Tohatsu 
is putting back into your battery.

Bill Effros

Jim Connolly wrote:

>2002 Tohatsu 8 has been bulletproof so far.  Not sure about ethanol additive
>as I live in MA.  Also the least expensive electric start motor I could find
>(at request of wife who hates to pull start).  Charging soil came with it
>but has been a waste of $ since I don't run the engine long enough to
>recharge the battery, just inside the mooring field.
>
>Previous boat had a Nissan 5.  This also was trouble free.
>
>Good luck
>
>Jim Connolly
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lou Rosenberg
>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 10:55 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carb problems with NISSAN outboards?
>
>  Peter, Bill
>  Sorry to go back to this post but I have found some word of mouth info on
>the Nissan/ Tohatsu motors and want to confirm it with anyone on this list's
>experience.
>  I heard from a sailor in my marina that the 2004 Nissan outboards DO NOT
>RUN WELL AT ALL with  ETHANOL  added to the fuel.  In NYC we have ethanol
>added during the some parts of the season .
>  Does any one have any experiences with bad carbureators on the NISSAN or
>Tohasu OB motors?
>
>
>
>  
>
>>Peter,
>>
>>6.5 Pitch Prop.
>>
>>I know mechanically what that means, but I never understand what it 
>>does.  What is the standard prop for motorboats?  Why?
>>
>>I want a prop that will allow me to go slow.  There is a lot of wind 
>>and current where I dock.  I want a prop that will allow me to slowly 
>>approach the dock, whether or not there is wind and current, without 
>>disengaging the prop, without stalling out, and without forcing me to 
>>coast in for the last 5 to 100 feet depending on wind and current 
>>conditions.
>>
>>I don't care if I have to rev higher to get the boat to hull speed.
>>
>>What prop do I want?
>>
>>Bill Effros
>>
>>Peter Thorn wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi Lou,
>>>
>>>Congratulations on completing that ugly task.  May everything be 
>>>downhill for you from here on.  I bought Tohatsu 9.8 for Raven, but I 
>>>really wanted an 8hp.  At the time the distributor was all out of 8s, 
>>>so I settled because I needed it then.  The motor weighs 82 pounds 
>>>same as the 8, the lightest 4 stroke on the market.  Added a 6.5 pitch 
>>>prop, (for sailboats) and everything works quite well.  95% of the 
>>>time, Raven motors at 1/16 throttle and 4-4.5 knots.  It's the best 
>>>compromise for most quiet, least vibration and best speed through 
>>>water there.  Less than 1/2 gal per hour fuel consumption there too.  
>>>Any time I would like, I can twist up to 1/4 throttle and hull speed.  
>>>Beyond that, just bigger and bigger waves.  That
>>>9.8 can really make some big ones!
>>>
>>>Just returned from Oriental to Ocracoke -- fantastic trip!  Waiting to 
>>>exchange pictures with my fellow adventurers and write up my log notes,
>>>      
>>>
>then
>  
>
>>>will post to the list.  Not sure I can do better than Chris G though.   A
>>>real South Western Odysseus!
>>>
>>>PT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Rosenberg" <lsr3 at MAIL.nyu.edu>
>>>To: "Richard Smith" <sailnut at worldnet.att.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>>><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 4:16 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lou's CB trunk almost done
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>> Thanks Richard,
>>>> Ok  I will look into Eldridge, and I do plan to time my passage.
>>>> So you are saying that an 8hp is plenty for the Rhodes in most
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>situations?
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>< will a 8hp Tohatsu get me around Hells Gate where the Triboro
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>Bridge meets the East River, with the tide coming in and the 
>>>>>>current going south?>
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>Five horsepower is plenty.  The speed of the current in this area 
>>>>>can
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>exceed
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>the hull speed of the boat.  No reasonable amount of power will 
>>>>>overcome that limitation.  Get a copy of Eldridge and time your 
>>>>>passages to take advantage of the current not fight it.
>>>>>
>>>>>The heavy engine on the stern will worsen the hobby horsing tendency 
>>>>>and associated cavitation in rough conditions.  Exactly when you don't
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>need .
>  
>
>>>>>Richard Smith
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