[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 vs. Precision 23

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Thanks Mary Lou
I don't know what's happening with the e-mails;  this is the e-mail I sent to the list in October and its reappeared?? 
I did get your views thank you very much, they were very helpful. I went ahead and placed an order with Stan for a new boat which I will pick up in the spring.

Regards
Nick
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> Nick, did you ask this question a couple of weeks ago? This may be deja vu 
> all over again or maybe my answer to this question never got to the list. 
> In any event, here it is again. 
> 
> I've never sailed aboard a P23 but we know some people who have one and 
> we've been aboard their boat. I think the PHRF will tell you the absolute 
> difference if all you are interested in is performance. The Rhodes 22 is 
> not a slow boat but as generally equipped it is likely that it is slower 
> than a P23. Precisions are well-built boats. I think they are still less 
> expensive than a Rhodes 22. 
> 
> Having said that, this is why we have a Rhodes 22 rather than a Precision 23: 
> 
> 1) Safety: A Rhodes 22 will sail well in extremely light air and yet, 
> because of its redundant safety features (IMF, positive flotation, 9 stays, 
> solid construction), we are confident in the heavy air we get in occasional 
> Chesapeake t-storms. We don't particularly enjoy heavy air sailing and 
> don't seek it out but if it finds us we are confident that we can weather 
> the storm. A P23 feels lighter and does not have positive flotation. 
> 
> 2) Comfort: The Rhodes 22 has the most comfortable cockpit of any size boat 
> I have ever been in. It is comfortable for sailing, sitting at anchor and 
> for napping. The pop-top means that moving about the boat and into the 
> cabin are easy at anchor or at the dock. It gives you more places to stand 
> and stretch at anchor which translates in the ability to stay aboard longer 
> without feeling cramped. P23 - no pop-top, not many places to stand up and 
> we don't like the wide open cabin in comparison to the R22 set-up. 
> 
> 3) "Cruisability" The R22 has a superior galley, good head facilities, and 
> great storage. We've gone 9 days on ours and the only thing that kept us 
> from going further was our time not the boat's limits. P23 - minimal 
> galley, not as much storage. 
> 
> Value all depends on how you intend to use the boat and why you want the 
> boat in the first place. If you are after speed, there are faster boats. If 
> you are looking for an ocean-going microcruiser, it's not a Rhodes 22. If 
> on the other hand you value responsiveness (fun to sail), stability, 
> comfort for daysailing or cruising and cruising capability, a Rhodes 22 may 
> be the best boat, the best value or even the only boat for you. Having 
> looked at and initially considered P23s I suspect they are great sailing 
> boats, good for limited coastal conditions (like an R22 though perhaps 
> without quite as wide a range) and good for occasional overnights. We spend 
> every weekend on our boat from April to November. We daysail from the 
> marina, we cruise, we anchor out overnight. We wouldn't be as comfortable 
> doing that on a P23. 
> 
> Mary Lou 
> 1991 R22 Fretless 
> Ft. Washington, PA / Swan Creek, MD 
> 
> 
> 
> At 05:04 PM 11/22/2005 -0500, you wrote: 
> >Hope somebody can help. 
> > 
> >I want to purchase a Rhodes 22 but would like to do my homework first. I 
> >have read various articles & reviews and the Rhodes looks like a great boat. 
> >I have also looked at the information on the Precision 23 which does not 
> >offer the same amenities but seems a faster boat ( and less expensive) 
> > 
> >Does anybody have experience of comparing the Rhodes 22 vs. the Precision 23 
> >in terms of performance, quality and value? 
> > 
> >Looking forward to feedback 
> > 
> >Nick 
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