[Rhodes22-list] Buying a Used Outboard from General Boats

[Russell Miller]

IMy pevious reply on this subject-

Stan maybe still has the motor from our trade-in - an 8HP 4 cycle Honda with
remote controls.  This was a very good motor .  You might want to ask him
about it.  This motor ALWAYS started on the second pull, the first sucks gas
into the engine, then varoom - thar she goes.

Russ
s/v  Bulldog
Rock Hall, MD

----- Original Message -----
From: <mputnam1 at aol.com>
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Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:30 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Buying a Used Outboard from General Boats


> I'm curious how people have faired with used outboards they purchased from
GB as part of a recyle ... we're considering it, but because I view the
outboard as potentially a critical component from a safety perspective, I'm
inclined to buy new rather than try and save a buck.  But maybe all of you
recycle customers have had good luck with Stan's used outboards ...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Connolly <jbconnolly at comcast.net>
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:21:00 -0500
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Carb problems with NISSAN outboards?
>
>
>  Bill,
>
> Could very well be true.  I don't have the Link 10, so I can only judge by
> result, that the battery (1, used, from Stan as part of the recycle) ends
> the relatively short summer season up here kind of pooped.  I did not have
> solar panels, but bought a set and will install them prior to launch in
the
> spring.  I will also likely get a new battery.
>
> BTW 4" of snow in my yard this morning northwest of Boston.  Happy
> Thanksgiving to all
>
> Jim Connolly
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:05 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carb problems with NISSAN outboards?
>
> Jim,
>
> As I understand it, all electric starting motors recharge batteries.
> Some may require a wire to be rigged up, but all will do it.  I have the
> Tohatsu 8, electric start, and I also have a Link 10 electrical monitor.
I
> also use the engine primarily just to get into and out of a mooring field.
> I was surprised at how much juice the engine puts back into the battery in
a
> very short time as measured by my meter.  It always returns more
electricity
> than was required to start the engine.
>
> I have 2 solar panels, 2 batteries, and the Tohatsu.  I never take the
> batteries off the boat, summer or winter.  They are never recharged using
> shore power.  They maintain high voltages (13.25-14.05) for their entire
> extended lives.  My batteries routinely last for more than double their
> expected lives.  I have far more power on board than I have ever needed,
and
> I'm never careful with it.
>
> I suspect you are underestimating the amount of electricity your Tohatsu
is
> putting back into your battery.
>
> Bill Effros
>
>
> Jim Connolly wrote:
>
> >2002 Tohatsu 8 has been bulletproof so far.  Not sure about ethanol
> >additive as I live in MA.  Also the least expensive electric start
> >motor I could find (at request of wife who hates to pull start).
> >Charging soil came with it but has been a waste of $ since I don't run
> >the engine long enough to recharge the battery, just inside the mooring
> field.
> >
> >Previous boat had a Nissan 5.  This also was trouble free.
> >
> >Good luck
> >
> >Jim Connolly
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lou Rosenberg
> >Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 10:55 AM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Carb problems with NISSAN outboards?
> >
> >  Peter, Bill
> >  Sorry to go back to this post but I have found some word of mouth
> >info on the Nissan/ Tohatsu motors and want to confirm it with anyone
> >on this list's experience.
> >  I heard from a sailor in my marina that the 2004 Nissan outboards DO
> >NOT RUN WELL AT ALL with  ETHANOL  added to the fuel.  In NYC we have
> >ethanol added during the some parts of the season .
> >  Does any one have any experiences with bad carbureators on the NISSAN
> >or Tohasu OB motors?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Peter,
> >>
> >>6.5 Pitch Prop.
> >>
> >>I know mechanically what that means, but I never understand what it
> >>does.  What is the standard prop for motorboats?  Why?
> >>
> >>I want a prop that will allow me to go slow.  There is a lot of wind
> >>and current where I dock.  I want a prop that will allow me to slowly
> >>approach the dock, whether or not there is wind and current, without
> >>disengaging the prop, without stalling out, and without forcing me to
> >>coast in for the last 5 to 100 feet depending on wind and current
> >>conditions.
> >>
> >>I don't care if I have to rev higher to get the boat to hull speed.
> >>
> >>What prop do I want?
> >>
> >>Bill Effros
> >>
> >>Peter Thorn wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi Lou,
> >>>
> >>>Congratulations on completing that ugly task.  May everything be
> >>>downhill for you from here on.  I bought Tohatsu 9.8 for Raven, but I
> >>>really wanted an 8hp.  At the time the distributor was all out of 8s,
> >>>so I settled because I needed it then.  The motor weighs 82 pounds
> >>>same as the 8, the lightest 4 stroke on the market.  Added a 6.5
> >>>pitch prop, (for sailboats) and everything works quite well.  95% of
> >>>the time, Raven motors at 1/16 throttle and 4-4.5 knots.  It's the
> >>>best compromise for most quiet, least vibration and best speed
> >>>through water there.  Less than 1/2 gal per hour fuel consumption there
> too.
> >>>Any time I would like, I can twist up to 1/4 throttle and hull speed.
> >>>Beyond that, just bigger and bigger waves.  That
> >>>9.8 can really make some big ones!
> >>>
> >>>Just returned from Oriental to Ocracoke -- fantastic trip!  Waiting
> >>>to exchange pictures with my fellow adventurers and write up my log
> >>>notes,
> >>>
> >>>
> >then
> >
> >
> >>>will post to the list.  Not sure I can do better than Chris G though.
A
> >>>real South Western Odysseus!
> >>>
> >>>PT
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Rosenberg"
> >>><lsr3 at MAIL.nyu.edu>
> >>>To: "Richard Smith" <sailnut at worldnet.att.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail
list"
> >>><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 4:16 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lou's CB trunk almost done
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks Richard,
> >>>> Ok  I will look into Eldridge, and I do plan to time my passage.
> >>>> So you are saying that an 8hp is plenty for the Rhodes in most
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>situations?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Lou
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>< will a 8hp Tohatsu get me around Hells Gate where the Triboro
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Bridge meets the East River, with the tide coming in and the
> >>>>>>current going south?>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>Five horsepower is plenty.  The speed of the current in this area
> >>>>>can
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>exceed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>the hull speed of the boat.  No reasonable amount of power will
> >>>>>overcome that limitation.  Get a copy of Eldridge and time your
> >>>>>passages to take advantage of the current not fight it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The heavy engine on the stern will worsen the hobby horsing
> >>>>>tendency and associated cavitation in rough conditions.  Exactly
> >>>>>when you don't
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >need .
> >
> >
> >>>>>Richard Smith
> >>>>>
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