[Rhodes22-list] Bottom Paint

[daniel snyder]

Bill,   You mention a great bottom paint that has a green tinge and that you 
use a Black Bottom paint.  Do you have the manufacturer's or brand name? 
Thanks.

Dan Snyder
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom Paint


> Daniel,
>
> Don't remember how many answers you got to this.  When I day sailed in
> Long Island Sound I just waxed the bottom of my boat, and hosed it down
> when I took it out.  This worked fine.
>
> But one day I left it in the water for 3 days, and the bottom was never
> the same again.
>
> After the EPA forced us to change from bottom paint that killed
> everything within a 15 foot radius of the boat to kinder, gentler bottom
> paint, nothing worked for a while.  It was a joke.  But over the years
> the paint companies have developed bottom paint that works better than
> it ever did before.
>
> The earlier good stuff killed the hard things until it got overwhelmed
> by slime in some environments at which point it stopped sloughing off
> paint layers to expose new biocide, and the build up began.
>
> Now they have developed great bottom paint that allows me to take the
> boat out of the water with the bottom in exactly the same condition it
> was when I put it in, 6 months earlier.  The paint has a green tinge.  I
> think this is because the algicide has a green color, and I don't think
> it is stuff that is growing, although it would be easy to think that's
> what it is.  I use Black Bottom paint because it hides the green tinge
> the best.
>
> The paint is designed to ablate.  You can knock it all off with a
> pressure washer if you choose to do so.  Nothing will grow where you do
> this for a while.  As mentioned earlier, I just slap on new stuff every
> year, and let the water smooth out my paint job for me.  I don't sand.
> I don't prep. I only have to pressure wash above the water line, and on
> lines that trail in the water if I don't plan to replace them (think
> rudder lines).
>
> Bill Effros
>
> daniel snyder wrote:
>
>> Bob K.
>>
>> My new Rhodes, due in May, will mostly stay on it's mooring ball from May 
>> thru Oct. here on a fresh water lake in NH.  The water is extremely 
>> clear, although there is always an amazing amount of algae and slime 
>> buildup below the waterline...which if allowed to dry after hauling is a 
>> real chore to get off.  I have a pretty red West Wight Potter and was 
>> surprised to see the level of fading that hit the red color below the 
>> waterline after scrubbing off the scum in October.
>>
>> I'm trying to determine with Stan what, if any, bottom paint might be 
>> applied.  Stan says check with the locals.  I did and the answer is 
>> nothing. My new Rhodes will have a red hull also, and I'd sure hate to 
>> see the color fade like the Potter.  So, I would like to minimize the 
>> slime build up if possible.   You mentioned the use of Petit Trinidad and 
>> that you are moving to a saltwater environment....was this bottom paint 
>> used for fresh water? If so, how did it help?  Thanks
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Keller" 
>> <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>
>> To: <rhodes-list at sailnet.net>; <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:33 PM
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom Paint
>>
>>
>>> Just brought Yankee Clipper to the marina (Big Water Marina) for a 
>>> bottom job - it's been 4 years since Stan used Petit Trinidad on the 
>>> bottom and it held up very well.  The bottom looked great when I pulled 
>>> the boat. I'm getting a "salt water" bottom job since I will be moving 
>>> to Savannah, GA next spring/summer.  So, what should I do with the 
>>> bottom?  I called the marina in Savannah and they recommended that I go 
>>> with an ablative paint instead of hard paint like Trinidad.  They use 
>>> and recommended a sanding job and then two coats of Petit Ultima Pro 
>>> (with biocide).  This can supposedly only be bought by boat yards, but 
>>> the Petit Ultima is likely not much different.  High copper contect and 
>>> biocide and using ablative paint will prevent build-up of bottom paint 
>>> that will eventually have to be dealt with. They said a sanding and two 
>>> new coats every 12-18 months does the trck on the coast.
>>>
>>> Just wanted to share this with the list and see if anyone has any 
>>> similar experiences.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bob K
>>> s/v Yankee Clipper
>>>
>>>
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