[Rhodes22-list] Tiller Auto Pilot Question(s)

Wed Nov 30 13:31:40 EST 2005

Art,
It wasn't the ST1000 autopilot that I found for $300, but the wireless
remote.  The cheapest that I have found the ST1000 is around $387 - $395;
with shipping it is around $400 - $410.  You can google it and find vendors
like Defender and Onlinemarine that have pretty good prices.  I've been
checking eBay, but there seem to be very few used tiller pilots on the
market and those that are out there are selling for more than I would be
willing to pay for a used one.

Bill W.

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Bill,
Where did you find the ST1000 autopilot at $300?
Art

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From: "William E. Wickman" <wewickman at duke-energy.com>
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Bob,
I guess I'll just have to wait until the wireless remotes drop in price.
The cheapest I have been able to find one is $300.

Bill W.

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Bill,
The remote is really not that valuable on a small boat like ours.  Just
another gadget to mess around with.  Of course, I like mine when it's
raining because I can steer from inside the cabin!
Bob K

>From: "William E. Wickman" <wewickman at duke-energy.com>
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>Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:30:30 -0500
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>Thanks for the input Herb and Bob.  Now, if I can just find one that comes
>with the remote....  Unfortunately, it looks like Raymarine discontinued
>offering the free wired remote and replaced it with a high dollar wireless
>remote.  Granted the wireless can interface with other SeaTalk items, but
>at $350 it costs almost as much as the tillerpilot!  Don't you just love
>corporate greed?
>
>Bill W.
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>If I may, even though not a Rhodes owner, I'll add a couple of things.
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>First of all, the "little receptacle cup" is not only epoxied into place,
>but if the thickness of the fiberglass is less than the depth of the cup,
>it should first be backed with a block of wood (or fiberglass, or
>something). In other words, the cup should be inserted into a solid base.
>On my O'Day 25, I put some epoxy on it, and ran a wood screw through the
>fiberglass and wood until it dried. Then I drilled the hole for the cup.
>
>Next, I'll say this is good for a LOT more than just single-handing. My
>wife thought I was being extravagant when I bought ours. However, a few
>evenings of us sitting on the bow of the boat, while it "sailed itself"
>convinced her it was one of the better purchases for the boat. It also
gets
>her on the boat more frequently, and ANYTHING that gets her on the boat
>more often is a great deal!
>
>Herb Parsons
>
>S/V O'Jure
>   1976 O'Day 25
>   Lake Grapevine, N TX
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>S/V Reve de Papa
>   1971 Coronado 35
>   Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
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> >>> r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com 11/22/2005 8:12:31 PM >>>
>Bill,
>I'm not going to tell you about my unit, but will be glad to talk about my
>autopilot...I went with the ST2000, but not for any specific reason other
>than I read that it might be more reliable (I think in epinions.com) and I
>figured that more power could not hurt.  Will the ST1000 work?  Most
likely
>
>it would be fine.  The R-22 helm is very light, even in heavy wind.
>
>As for installation, I had it at Big Water Marina for several months with
>no
>progress before finding someone close to Atlanta (Lake Lanier) who had
>experience installing all kinds of autopilots on all kinds of boats.  He
>installed it quickly and perfectly and it is like most things: simple when
>you know what you're doing.  The installation is like this (in
>non-technical
>terms):
>1. the pushrod hooks below the tiller with an offset bracket attached to
>the
>tiller. I don't know the size of the offset-but it isn't more than two
>inches.  There are three pushrod extensions, but I don't exactly know
their
>
>lengths.  I believe they are 4 or 5 inches, 2 inches and then a 1 inch
>extension that I do not need and keep as an extra.
>2. The unit installs on the top of the coaming - the little receptacle cup
>is sunk into the coaming flush with the surface and epoxied in place.
This
>
>installation is simple (since it does not require any additional brackets)
>and also allows my stern swivel captains seat to swing freely over it.
>3. The unit is perfectly level installed this way and I understand that
>this
>is part of a good installation although I've been told it will work fine
>even if it's not level.
>4. The electrical connection is directly below the unit on the seat back.
>I
>also got a free remote which is installed and plugs into the bulkhead (I
>think).
>
>This is the best addition to the boat that I have made (even though
>everyone
>laughed at me for adding it).  I singlehand a lot and it makes sailing
much
>
>more enjoyable, less tiring and I am able to keep my drinks full and the
>music fresh.  Great when motoring also, although I do run over a lot of
>channel markers.  I also have a wind instrument and can set the a/p to
hold
>
>a certain apparent wind angle - great on a lake when trying to point as
>high
>as possible.  Nice feature.
>
>The unit performs flawlessly, although I had a problem recently as the
>internal gears were stripped.  I sent it back, they completely rebuilt the
>insides of the unit and sent it back to me at no charge.  Amazing customer
>service after 2.5 years.
>
>In summary, I would avoid pedastals and mount it right on the coaming for
>simplicity.  I don't think you would go wrong with either the ST1000 or
>2000
>- I have no knowledge of any other brands.
>
>I wish I had some pictures, but I don't (on this new computer) and I won't
>be seeing the boat again for a couple months.
>
>Best of luck.
>Bob K
>s/v Yankee Clipper
>
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> >From: "William E. Wickman" <wewickman at duke-energy.com>
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> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller Auto Pilot Question(s)
> >Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:10:30 -0500
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> >I am looking at buying a Tillerpilot.  It looks like the Raymarine
ST1000
> >is the one everyone is getting.  For those of you with autopilots, I
have
>a
> >few questions:
> >
> >1)  Is the ST1000 the best unit for the Rhodes22?  Anyone have or use
the
> >Simrad?
> >
> >2) How did you install yours?  Any problems/challenges?  Did you install
> >the pushrod pin above or below the tiller?  Where to install the base of
> >the unit?  How about the power plug?
> >
> >3)  Does the unit have to be installed exactly level?  It looks to me
>like
> >it would be impossible to install the mounting pedestal (or base unit
> >mounting hole) perfectly horizontal because of the slope of the coaming.
> >How did you deal with the non levelness issue?
> >
> >I read in the Rhodes22 FAQ where Roger recommended a 3" pedestal and 2-
>5"
> >rod extenders.  However, a recent picture of Yankee Clipper shows the
>unit
> >mounted nearly flush to the deck with the pushrod mounted underneath the
> >tiller.
> >
> >Basically, I would love to hear about everyone's experience with these
> >contraptions.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Bill W.
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