[Rhodes22-list] Re: List etiquette. Inflammatory rhetoric

[Saroj Gilbert]

Herb,

ok... sounds like we're going to have a "depends on what the word 'xyz'
means" conversation

... "one who bitches is a bitch"...  huh? is that really what you meant,
Herb?  I dunno...sounds pretty tame considering all that sputtering and the
red face.

.... then, I guess that includes us all... or if there is anyone on the list
who doesn't ever bitch, raise your hand

.... seems to me, Herb, that you were doing quite a bit of  bitching
yourself this morning

.... anyway, you say that like it's a BAD thing... being a bitch...  in a
lot of ways it is actually just the opposite.

just curious... exactly what 'sexual proclivities' does the word 'bitch'
imply?  I must not run in the same circles... have no idea what you mean...
or is it when a woman says to her man... "yo, you my bitch"... is that what
you meant?

my ancestry? as in "son of a...." or "the bitch is about to whelp" or ...
jeesh, you've got me stymied again, Herb.

...better get my "language only used in the gutters" dictionary out so I can
get educated and less ignorant.

as for your apology... you are apologizing for us ignoramuses 
misinterpreting your
statement?  You been taking lessons from Brownie?  "The only mistake I made
was to not insist that the governor of LA and the mayor of NO sit down
together and work out their differences."  [pause for barfing]

Saroj
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 12:25 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: List etiquette. Inflammatory rhetoric


Well, since you've decided to make our private conversation public, I'll 
respond publicly:

To all (including Saroj):

My reference to Saroj as a "bitch" in no way questioned her sexual 
proclivities or her ancestry. My reference was as one who complains without 
cause and out of ignorance. One who sails is a sailor. One who bitches is a 
bitch.

If anyone received the statement in any other way, I apologize for my 
misinterpreted statement, but NOT for the sentiment.

Misconstruing one's personal beliefs is a personal attack, whether it is 
couched in politically correct language or not. I have never "met" more 
intelligent, well meaning people than some of those I've met on here. At the 
same time, I've never met more ignorant, close-minded, hateful people that 
some of those that I've met on here. I'll leave it up to the list to decide 
which individuals fit into which categories.


Herb Parsons

S/V O'Jure
  1976 O'Day 25
  Lake Grapevine, N TX

S/V Reve de Papa
  1971 Coronado 35
  Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast

>>> <R22RumRunner at aol.com> 10/1/2005 11:09:09 AM >>>
Herb.
I'm not going to debate this with you. Calling Saroj a "bitch" is
unacceptable. Having an intelligent discussion is acceptable. We all agree 
that  we
don't all agree, but can discuss it without inflammatory rhetoric. Telling
someone to "fuck off" is acceptable bar language. Name calling is not. It 
will  get
you into a fight in any bar I've ever been in and that's why I stay out of
bars. The more I drink the worse my vocabulary becomes and I end up doing 
things
 I might later consider stupid.

Rummy

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