[Rhodes22-list] Retrieving WAS Access to Archive files

Sun Oct 2 09:18:59 EDT 2005

Todd,
We leave about 6" of the bunks exposed and do not use the tongue extension 
unless we have to, which has been only once. This depends completely on the 
depth of the ramp - avoid ramps that are very steep and designed to drop in 
boats with significant keels. For us, the most important aspect of getting 
the boat on the trailer is to get the boat far enough forward for weight 
distribution - otherwise the boat sways over 50mph. We have a 2003 Triad 
Single axle and try to get the port window closest to the stern just in 
front of the axel.

Julie
s/v Blue Loon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Saroj Gilbert" <saroj at pathfind.net>
To: "Todd Zumach" <zoomerzx at gmail.com>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list" 
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 11:10 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Retrieving WAS Access to Archive files

>
> I'm wracking my brain to remember where I have the "Stan-blessed" 
> instructions for loading onto the trailer... I actually think it is on a 
> very old VHS tape that I picked up somewhere along the way....
>
> However I'll put my 2 cents in and others can add theirs... I don't do 
> this very often so hang on for the ride...
>
> I remember very distinctly Stan saying "keep the front edge of the bunks 
> about 4 inches or so above water"... you should be able to see them 
> easily. The trailer should be as straight as possible at a 90 deg angle to 
> the waterline.  I have once retrieved w/o extending the tongue, but much 
> better to have it extended.
>
> Next... keep the centerboard down when retrieving... it catches in the 
> guides and keeps the boat centered... be sure to pull it up completely 
> after the boat is situated properly or there will be hell to pay when you 
> launch next cause it will get caught and can do some serious damage.
>
> I drive the boat onto the trailer with the motor... I think most do, but 
> have lost touch since past discussions... it gives good momentum to get 
> the boat as far forward as possible, but tricky since it is difficult to 
> manage the motor and still see forward... of course you must put it in 
> neutral as the bow enters the trailer or you will overrun.  I disconnect 
> the gas line and leave the motor to run out of gas.
>
> Then, if solo, run forward and attach the trailer winch cable to the bow 
> eye and crank as tightly as you can.
>
> Finally, once you are on relatively level ground, do some lurching forward 
> and braking to encourage the boat even more forward and tighten down the 
> cable even more.  I seem to recall though that once the boat is positioned 
> you should loosen the cable a bit... can't remember why.
>
> I have a Triad trailer approximately the same age as yours I suspect, 
> however a few years ago I had a second axle added and the original one 
> repositioned.  The trailer is far more stable now and a delight to tow. 
> She's been across country since (through the Rockies twice and once down 
> Bryce Canyon... nearly burned out the brakes of the tow vehicle on that 
> one) and we hardly knew she was there.
>
> I've left out some other tasks like pulling up the rudder or removing it, 
> handling the boom and mast, etc.  I assume you have that part handled.
>
> I will say though that when I've prepped the boat for a long haul, I 
> schlep the motor up into the bow for extra weight... again, not easy, but 
> well worth it.
>
> I once tried to retrieve the boat w/o the CB down cause it was frozen due 
> to below freezing weather (don't ask... don't try it... it is a painful 
> experience)... I had a tough time centering the boat and finally backed 
> her off and worked the CB until it released... then all went well, but in 
> the meantime I had cracked one of the bunks which had to be replaced.
>
> Hope this helps... any additions or corrections welcomed.
>
> Saroj
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Todd Zumach" <zoomerzx at gmail.com>
> To: <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list" 
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 11:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Access to Archive files
>
>
> Excellent. It works! Now just one more favor (for the night anyway). 
> Several
> people have mentioned "searching the archives". I must admit I don't know
> how to do that. Do I need to download the 125mb raw archive?
>
> P.S. I pulled the boat for the season today. I had two great day's of
> sailing with my family. Everything went great until we tried to put the 
> boat
> on the trailer (for the first time). The keel kept riding up on the
> starboard 2x6 guide. I think I had the trailer in too deep. I have the 
> 1986
> model single axel Triad trailer. I extended the tounge and put the front
> edge of the side bunks just under the water, but I think that was too 
> deep.
> Any tip about how deep to back into the water to launch and retrieve?
>
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Todd
>
> On 10/1/05, michael meltzer <michaelmeltzer at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> try it now. -mjm
>>
>> --- Todd Zumach <zoomerzx at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I get the following message when I try to access the
>> > archived messages. Any
>> > help to resolve would be much appreciated.
>> > Todd Z
>> >
>> > Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper
>> > encountered a fatal error. This
>> > entry is being stored in your syslog:
>> >
>> > Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI
>> > wrapper script to be executed as group "nobody", but
>> > the system's web server executed the CGI script as
>> > group "www". Try tweaking the web server to run the
>> > script as group "nobody", or re-run configure,
>> > providing the command line option
>> > `--with-cgi-gid=www'.
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