[Rhodes22-list] Beer Overboard
Slim
salm at mn.rr.com
Mon Apr 17 17:07:29 EDT 2006
Bob,
Many thanks. Very clear explanation. I can't wait to try it out.
Slim
On 4/17/06 2:28 PM, "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Slim, ASA teaches the Figure 8 meathod. It is a little slower but your
> chance for success goes way up. Soon as you hear a splash you turn to a
> Beam Reach (either tack). As you sail away from MOB you are NOT getting any
> higher or lower than the MOB (it is all about expending your last bit of
> energy when you are near the MOB). You come about and head back to MOB (you
> should be on a beam reach going back as well. About 4 or 5 boat leghts away
> you reduce the boat speed by loosing the head sail then you gain some energy
> (point 30 to 45 degrees below the target.) When that distance is cut in
> half you spend some energy heading straight at MOB. Ideally you shoud be on
> a close reach now (you can still head up a bit if needed w/o stalling) At
> about 20 feet
> release the main sheet to where you are only gliding toward victum. If you
> need to lose more speed you head directly up wind when you get MOB next to
> boat. The description sounds much more difficult than the practice. I
> teach the students to use reference points on the boat to make the exercise
> more repeatable. For instance when heading back to MOB on beam reach at
> about 4-5 BLs away I have them fall off till the victum is visable on the
> other side of the most forward stanchion and sail that course until MOB
> reaches the aft stanchion and then head right toward him. It works pretty
> well, it is a shallow dip and usually you reach the MOB with a little too
> much energy but it is very repeatable which is good especially if you value
> the object to be recovered and you are very excited. When I was young my
> dad did what he called a slam tack. As soon as he heard a splash he would
> thow the boat into the wind and let the head sail back. We would evenutally
> drift back on the object, more or less. I still do this out of habit but it
> is useless going downwind. The thing to get used to is to try to recover
> everything, trash, old hat, anything that goes over. Give nothing to davey
> jones and you will get plenty of practice in no time. Hope it helps.
>
> Bob Weber
>
>> From: Slim <salm at mn.rr.com>
>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> To: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Beer Overboard
>> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:56:57 -0600
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Can you give us a few pointers? Tack vs. jibe? Figure 8? Do you have any
>> specific down wind/up wind maneuvers? Anything would be helpful. I plan
>> to
>> work on this a lot this summer.
>>
>> Dog overboard will likely happen to us too some day. He wears a doggie PFD
>> (a DFD?) with the handle on the top making it easy to grab him and lift him
>> into the boat, and we keep him tethered to the boat when we're under way.
>> Still, it could happen.
>>
>> Slim
>>
>> On 4/17/06 9:29 AM, "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Rum, Motoring, Person in the water" That combination Kills 4 to 5
>> people
>>> every year just on one lake in missouri, Lake of the Ozarks. Everyone
>> knows
>>> of someone who at least knows someone that experienced this tragedy, yet
>> it
>>> still happens. I would strongly suggest you sail back to the MOB. If
>> you
>>> are not practiced doing this, it makes for pretty good fun on a slow
>> wind
>>> day. Toss a cushion over and sail back to it. I wont pass my students
>>> unless the are able to have the MOB with in boat hook distance of the
>> boat
>>> somewhere between the mast and the stern with the boat nearly stopped.
>> You
>>> will use this skill countless other times with Hat overboard, Coozie
>>> overboard, I have even had to recover Dog overboard (that was tough - He
>>> kept moving to where I was and changing where i was going). Bob Weber
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Beer Overboard
>>>> Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:46:29 EDT
>>>>
>>>> Slimmy,
>>>> It is a drink holder attached to his life vest. I believe there is a
>> straw
>>>> from which he can get a sip whenever he wants. Past experience with my
>>>> Hobie
>>>> tells me this is a brilliant device.
>>>>
>>>> Bill,
>>>> Practicing the MOB drill is very important. We have a rule on Rum
>> Runner
>>>> that should anyone ever go overboard, the next thing done is to throw a
>>>> cockpit
>>>> cushion towards the individual. This eliminates the need for a hasty
>>>> recovery,
>>>> unless you happen to be in cold water where hypothermia becomes an
>> issue.
>>>> With a good floating device in the water, you can take your time
>> coming
>>>> back to
>>>> the MOB, even dropping sails and motoring over to them. It would also
>> give
>>>> them some time to get over how stupid they were in the first place for
>>>> going
>>>> overboard, unless of course, they have been drinking massive
>> quantities of
>>>> rum, which is a legal excuse anywhere. IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> Rummy
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