[Rhodes22-list] Elle and Surveyors..spilling the beans

Sun Aug 13 13:25:42 EDT 2006

Elle,

Congrats on your boat!  I saw it in Edenton about a month ago in Stan's
shed.  Very nice!

I have a 2005 Tohatsu 4 cycle 20" (long) shaft -- just the basic pull start
motor, no extras except the 6.5 sailboat prop.   It's a 9.8 hp, but
essentially the same motor as the 8hp with a little tweaking to get more
power.  It's 81 pounds and reasonably good for trailer sailing.

I really like that motor.  It usually starts on the first pull and idles
nicely, like a quiet sewing machine. Although it has more power than needed,
it will push the boat at hull speed at less than 1/4  throttle, sewing
machining along.  Very quiet.  Last year in a rough Pamilco Sound chop
returning from Ocracoke and out of sight of land, I was glad to have the
extra power.  Another plus is knowing that it pollutes less than 2 cycle.

PT

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "L. Sailor" <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:04 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Elle and Surveyors..spilling the beans

> I think a 20" will be adequate....thanks for the feedback..
>
>   How do you like the Tohatsu?  Is it an 8HP?
>
>   elle
>
> Jim Connolly <jbconnolly at comcast.net> wrote:
>   I have the Tohatsu 20" shaft. With the motor up, the very lowest tip of
the
> outboard is clear of the water when the boat is not pitching, with 200+lb
me
> at the rear of the cockpit watching it. The rails on my motor lift extend
a
> bit above the gunwales. I assume a 25" motor would need to be tipped, or
> extra long rails installed on the motor lift. FWIW.
>
> Jim Connolly
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of TN Rhodey
> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 7:35 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Elle and Surveyors..spilling the beans
>
> Elle,
>
> Great news! I bet your boat will turn some heads.
>
> As for outboard motors.... "high thrust" is not just the prop. There are
> also differences in gearing. A firend has a high thrust Yamaha on his
O'Day
> and his reverse works so much better than mine. The prop gearing combo is
> designed for deplacement hulls. He has had his a few years and so far so
> good. Not much more than idle will have him at hull speed. Wide open my 2
> stroke is not that much louder but you never really need to run the Yamha
> wiide open. When we drag race he wins every time. At hull speed his motor
is
> very quiet.
>
> My Merc 6 HP 2 Stroke works fine for inland conditions. In areas of strong
> tides and currents I would want an 8 or 9 horse. I don't have remote
linkage
> for motor and haven't found the need. Many outboards have electric start,
> kill, throttle and F/R/N all on tiller. I never thought mixing oil was
that
> big of a deal. This also means you don't have any motor oil to change. The
> big thing with me is the weight of the 4 strokes. Most are near 100
pounds!
>
> Twenty inch is "Long Shaft". Twenty Five is "Extra Long". Make sure that
> your motor lift will allow the 25 inch to clear the water on all points of
> sail. The extra long most likely would help some when hobby horsing in bad
> weather.
>
> Do you have any pics? I would love to see the wheel steering.
>
> Wally
>
>
> >From: "L. Sailor"
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Elle and Surveyors..spilling the beans
> >Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:02:14 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Ed, thanks for the reply....after a bit pf phone work, I found what I
> >was looking for...and then some....
> >
> >the first guy I called (in New Bern) was as charming as could
> >be....until he found out that it was a 22'
> >boat....I guess he couldn't be bothered with a 'triflling' small
> >boat....This may be the one that you referenced, Ed. He had nothing
> >good to say about the R-22...about the only good thing he could say was
> >that it looked better in the slip than on the water (oh...he never
> >sailed one). His advice was to get a
> >J-22 & a strong friend.
> >
> >i actually did find another one surveyor closer who had done R-22'a
> >previously....I will look for the one you mentioned.
> >
> >Why am I looking for a surveyor?
> >
> > B/US requires a survey to get a full value policy boat
> >policy...B/US's policy is half the quote of another company's full
> >value policy.
> >
> >Why am I looking at boat insurance??
> >
> >Here it comes.....
> >
> >Because I BOUGHT A RECYCLED R-22 !!!!!!!!!!!! It's RED! Sailed it on
> >the Albemarle several weeks ago & was hooked.
> >
> >(Just a bit ahead of schedule!)
> >
> >elle
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Tootle wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Elle:
> > > No I do not recall a name of a surveyor who has recently
> > > surveyed a boat in Edenton. Get a copy of Good Old Boats and look
> > > up surveyors in the back. I believe a famous surveyor guy lives in
> > > the area, his name is Bill Sandifer(?). I recall one surveyor who
> > > was surveying a boat when I was visiting one time gave Stan a hard
> > > time, so I would not expect Stan to offer his name. Although I do
> > > not believe that Stan took it personally, he just got mad at some of
> > > his assistants who said they had thouroughly checked things.
> > > There are good books on surveying. I have a copy of Surveying
> > > Fiberglass Sailboats by Henry C Mustin, ISBN 0-07-044248-7. It is
> > > not expensive and is available over WWW. And you might look here:
> > > http://www.CruisersNet.net
> > > Things have been quite on sailing subjects the last week. It
> > > is interesting that some newbies jump on the list and ask a question
> > > and never acknowledge the answers nor do we hear from them for
> > > several years.
> > >
> > > Ed K
> > > Greenville, SC, USA
> > > ~`~`_/) ~~~~~
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > L. Sailor wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi, guys,
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone recall the name of the surveyor who previously
> > > > surveyed an R-22 in Edenton?
> > > >
> > > > elle
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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