pull start Re: [Rhodes22-list] Elle and Surveyors..spilling the beans

mtroy at atlanticbb.net mtroy at atlanticbb.net
Sun Aug 13 14:38:18 EDT 2006 

Elle,
While electric start is a good thing you might want to 
experiment with pull start on whatever motor you end up 
with. I am also very short and not particularly strong. I 
have learned that technique and experience can make up for 
strength and length of pull. On our Honda a gentle pull 
until you feel resistance and then a short quick pull 
usually do the trick. I'm not very good at the quick part 
but I can usually start it after a couple of tries. I 
would have been happier if our Honda had been available 
with electric start as Fred does start it more easily than 
I do but I do practice several times a summer just to make 
sure I could start it if I had to.

Best,
Mary Lou


On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 09:37:26 -0700 (PDT)
  "L. Sailor" <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thank you, Peter...or, rather, thank Stan. It's his 
>imagination that we all sail on.
>   
>  Getting the controls up to the binnacle where I can 
>reach them appears to be the problem.
>   
>  Does this Tohatsu have a remote capability? I also need 
>elect. start as I am not strong enuf (nor are my arms 
>long enuf!) for pull start.
>   
>  elle
> 
> Peter Thorn <pthorn at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>  Elle,
> 
> Congrats on your boat! I saw it in Edenton about a month 
>ago in Stan's
> shed. Very nice!
> 
> I have a 2005 Tohatsu 4 cycle 20" (long) shaft -- just 
>the basic pull start
> motor, no extras except the 6.5 sailboat prop. It's a 
>9.8 hp, but
> essentially the same motor as the 8hp with a little 
>tweaking to get more
> power. It's 81 pounds and reasonably good for trailer 
>sailing.
> 
> I really like that motor. It usually starts on the first 
>pull and idles
> nicely, like a quiet sewing machine. Although it has 
>more power than needed,
> it will push the boat at hull speed at less than 1/4 
>throttle, sewing
> machining along. Very quiet. Last year in a rough 
>Pamilco Sound chop
> returning from Ocracoke and out of sight of land, I was 
>glad to have the
> extra power. Another plus is knowing that it pollutes 
>less than 2 cycle.
> 
> PT
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "L. Sailor" 
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" 
> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:04 PM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Elle and 
>Surveyors..spilling the beans
> 
> 
>> I think a 20" will be adequate....thanks for the 
>>feedback..
>>
>> How do you like the Tohatsu? Is it an 8HP?
>>
>> elle
>>
>> Jim Connolly wrote:
>> I have the Tohatsu 20" shaft. With the motor up, the 
>>very lowest tip of
> the
>> outboard is clear of the water when the boat is not 
>>pitching, with 200+lb
> me
>> at the rear of the cockpit watching it. The rails on my 
>>motor lift extend
> a
>> bit above the gunwales. I assume a 25" motor would need 
>>to be tipped, or
>> extra long rails installed on the motor lift. FWIW.
>>
>> Jim Connolly
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of 
>>TN Rhodey
>> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 7:35 AM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Elle and 
>>Surveyors..spilling the beans
>>
>> Elle,
>>
>> Great news! I bet your boat will turn some heads.
>>
>> As for outboard motors.... "high thrust" is not just the 
>>prop. There are
>> also differences in gearing. A firend has a high thrust 
>>Yamaha on his
> O'Day
>> and his reverse works so much better than mine. The prop 
>>gearing combo is
>> designed for deplacement hulls. He has had his a few 
>>years and so far so
>> good. Not much more than idle will have him at hull 
>>speed. Wide open my 2
>> stroke is not that much louder but you never really need 
>>to run the Yamha
>> wiide open. When we drag race he wins every time. At 
>>hull speed his motor
> is
>> very quiet.
>>
>> My Merc 6 HP 2 Stroke works fine for inland conditions. 
>>In areas of strong
>> tides and currents I would want an 8 or 9 horse. I don't 
>>have remote
> linkage
>> for motor and haven't found the need. Many outboards 
>>have electric start,
>> kill, throttle and F/R/N all on tiller. I never thought 
>>mixing oil was
> that
>> big of a deal. This also means you don't have any motor 
>>oil to change. The
>> big thing with me is the weight of the 4 strokes. Most 
>>are near 100
> pounds!
>>
>> Twenty inch is "Long Shaft". Twenty Five is "Extra 
>>Long". Make sure that
>> your motor lift will allow the 25 inch to clear the 
>>water on all points of
>> sail. The extra long most likely would help some when 
>>hobby horsing in bad
>> weather.
>>
>> Do you have any pics? I would love to see the wheel 
>>steering.
>>
>> Wally
>>
>>
>> >From: "L. Sailor"
>> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Elle and 
>>Surveyors..spilling the beans
>> >Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:02:14 -0700 (PDT)
>> >
>> >Ed, thanks for the reply....after a bit pf phone work, 
>>I found what I
>> >was looking for...and then some....
>> >
>> >the first guy I called (in New Bern) was as charming as 
>>could
>> >be....until he found out that it was a 22'
>> >boat....I guess he couldn't be bothered with a 
>>'triflling' small
>> >boat....This may be the one that you referenced, Ed. He 
>>had nothing
>> >good to say about the R-22...about the only good thing 
>>he could say was
>> >that it looked better in the slip than on the water 
>>(oh...he never
>> >sailed one). His advice was to get a
>> >J-22 & a strong friend.
>> >
>> >i actually did find another one surveyor closer who had 
>>done R-22'a
>> >previously....I will look for the one you mentioned.
>> >
>> >Why am I looking for a surveyor?
>> >
>> > B/US requires a survey to get a full value policy boat
>> >policy...B/US's policy is half the quote of another 
>>company's full
>> >value policy.
>> >
>> >Why am I looking at boat insurance??
>> >
>> >Here it comes.....
>> >
>> >Because I BOUGHT A RECYCLED R-22 !!!!!!!!!!!! It's RED! 
>>Sailed it on
>> >the Albemarle several weeks ago & was hooked.
>> >
>> >(Just a bit ahead of schedule!)
>> >
>> >elle
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--- Tootle wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Elle:
>> > > No I do not recall a name of a surveyor who has 
>>recently
>> > > surveyed a boat in Edenton. Get a copy of Good Old 
>>Boats and look
>> > > up surveyors in the back. I believe a famous 
>>surveyor guy lives in
>> > > the area, his name is Bill Sandifer(?). I recall one 
>>surveyor who
>> > > was surveying a boat when I was visiting one time 
>>gave Stan a hard
>> > > time, so I would not expect Stan to offer his name. 
>>Although I do
>> > > not believe that Stan took it personally, he just 
>>got mad at some of
>> > > his assistants who said they had thouroughly checked 
>>things.
>> > > There are good books on surveying. I have a copy of 
>>Surveying
>> > > Fiberglass Sailboats by Henry C Mustin, ISBN 
>>0-07-044248-7. It is
>> > > not expensive and is available over WWW. And you 
>>might look here:
>> > > http://www.CruisersNet.net
>> > > Things have been quite on sailing subjects the last 
>>week. It
>> > > is interesting that some newbies jump on the list 
>>and ask a question
>> > > and never acknowledge the answers nor do we hear 
>>from them for
>> > > several years.
>> > >
>> > > Ed K
>> > > Greenville, SC, USA
>> > > ~`~`_/) ~~~~~
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > L. Sailor wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi, guys,
>> > > >
>> > > > Does anyone recall the name of the surveyor who 
>>previously
>> > > > surveyed an R-22 in Edenton?
>> > > >
>> > > > elle
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
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