[Rhodes22-list] Shroud or Stay Covering Reply to Mike and Todd

[Tootle]

Mike and Todd:

     The bottom piece sits flush with the deck.  As Mike says 'It is
supposed to turn'.   I have said it before in earlier post to this current
discussion that it has rasied one time with the sheet under the edge -that I
can recall - That is since inception.   It has occassionally risen while
turning but the sheet is above the bottom.  There pressure from the sheet
while turning screws it up.  The piece drop as soon as sheet is loosened.

       My original purpose was to prevent chafing.  Subsequently Stan
mentioned the problem of the Genoa chafing on the hardware and stays, so he
reinforced my opinion that what I was doing was good.  If you want to buy a
new Genoa, just let it abraid accross the turnbucle.  Yes rigging tape
helps, but that technique does not roll freely.

        Again I would consider putting tubing on the stays above the
spreaders.  Am I the only one that sails the 175 tight against the stays?  

         When I do bring the Genoa inside the outer stays because of wind, I
do not use all of the sail, that means that it is partially reefed.   I have
an inside track (that is a track next to the cabin).  As far as I can tell
with the inside track, I am able to maintain a good sail shape.  

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA
Addendum:  $10 worth of plastic tubing is less that a new Genoa.  




R22MikeW wrote:
> 
> This will prevent the tube from rotating, a key point in Ed's design.  I 
> personally are more concerned about trapping the sheet under the tube. 
> Ed?
> 
> Mike
> s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
> 
> From: "Todd Zumach" <zoomerzx at gmail.com> Sunday, December 03, 2006 1:15 PM
>> How about drilling a small hole through the tube in line with the
>> turnbuckles connection with the chain plate.  You could then fish a small
>> zip tie through the holes and trap it above the clevis pin on the
>> turnbuckle.  If you did it correctly you shouldn't have much vertical
>> lift
>> of the tube and it would be easy to remove if you wanted to adjust the
>> shroud tension.
>>
>> Todd Zumach
>> Phillips, WI
>>
>> On 11/30/06, Charles Henthorn <rexh at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ed:
>>>       My problem seems to arise when the jib sheet catches under the
>>> tube---lifting it up---exposing the small slot between the chain plate 
>>> and
>>> the turnbuckle ---- into which the sheet jams at the wrong time.  An
>>> alternative solution (to the shrink-wrap filling the slot) would be for 
>>> some
>>> engineering-type to design a way to keep the tubing from rising.   Have 
>>> you
>>> experienced this problem or does the 'double'  tube give it enough
>>> weight 
>>> to
>>> keep the sheet from raising it?
>>>   Rex
>>>
>>> Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Rigging tape or heat shrink keep bare metal from rubbing or chafing the
>>> sails or sheets. However, plastic pipe used for sink plumbing cut to
>>> lengths to cover the chain plates and turnbuckles can turn (rotate on a
>>> horizontal axis). That allows for free movement of sheets and sails. 
>>> Since
>>> the sails are rolling and not rubbing it makes for even less chafing.
>>> Get
>>> out your magnifying glass and see the attached picture from the
>>> archives:
>>>
>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200509/30/shroudcovers.gif
>>>
>>>
>>> Note that the bottom piece is flush with the deck and rotates free and
>>> independent of the next two pieces above. Each of the three layers 
>>> rotates
>>> and rotates independently. The total weight for all the pieces for four
>>> stays is maybe a quarter of a pound. Small amount of weight for saving
>>> your
>>> sails. Available from Lowes, Home Depot or your local Ace Hardware. Note
>>> that the top thin piece is not pvc but teflon tube(or other slick 
>>> plastic)
>>>
>>> that just fits over the screw part of the turnbuckle when saparated from
>>> the
>>> turning part of the turnbuckle. It is a four foot piece and in addition 
>>> to
>>> turning freely is slick.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ed K
>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>> Also:
>>>
>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200605/22/shroudcover2.gif
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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