[Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Design

[Bill Effros]

Thanks, Will,

The more you can tell us, the better.

Will's link shows Roger's Bimini Room, and Bulldog's Boom Room.

I have attached Slim's Boom Room.

The differences are pretty obvious.

Bill Effros

William P. Barry, III wrote:

> Interested in Bimini Room Ideas: See current photos:
>
> http://www.rhodes22.org/wpb/biminiroom/
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> Will Barry
> wp.barry at att.net
>
>
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Design
>
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Do you know anything about in-field installation of snaps?  Do you 
>> envision "do-it-yourself" or professional installation?
>>
>> If only the boom supports the fabric you wind up with what some call 
>> a "boom-tent"--sort of a high pup tent over your cockpit.  If the 
>> boom is used like a ridge pole, then you need some sort of  "rafters" 
>> to make the "walls" of the room vertical.  This can be done by 
>> providing a frame, which is, I believe, the approach used in Slim's 
>> boat, or by draping rafters over the boom and securing 
>> them...somehow.  Some people seem to use line secured to stays to 
>> keep the roof angle from going down too sharply and depriving the 
>> room of a "roomy" feeling.
>>
>> Assembling and disassembling this structure takes time, and the poles 
>> take up space.  Stan would like the whole room to fit into a 
>> Rubbermaid Container.
>>
>> If there are poles holding up the sides of the room, what do the 
>> poles go into?
>>
>> Panels will take longer to assemble than a one piece job, and the 
>> resulting structure won't be as strong or tight.
>>
>> Slim, Will, Russell -- most of us have never seen a boom room except 
>> for your pictures and Stan's.  We are like the blind men and the 
>> elephant.  We know you like what you got, and we want something like 
>> that, too.  Your experience is most valued.  Please jump in.
>>
>> Stan will jump in when he gets ready.  He knows what has been right, 
>> and wrong with all of his previous attempts.
>>
>> Bill Effros
>>
>> Bob Keller wrote:
>>
>>> Bill,
>>> My comments are in CAPS.
>>> Bob K
>>>
>>>> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> To: R22 List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Design
>>>> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:05:08 -0500
>>>>
>>>> Trying to summarize the cumulative wisdom on Boom Rooms, (and I 
>>>> know I can count on you to correct me if I got something wrong):
>>>>
>>>> 1.  We anticipate an add-on to the existing Pop Top Enclosure.  GREAT!
>>>>
>>>> 2.  It won't be a "Bimini Room". GREAT
>>>>
>>>> 3.  Fabric material, screens, windows will be similar to PTE. YES
>>>>
>>>> Here are things we need to discuss:
>>>>
>>>> 4.  The PTE-BR junction will be held together with Velcro (?) THAT 
>>>> MAKES SENSE
>>>>
>>>> 5.  What holds it up? THE BOOM IS THE MOST LOGICAL SUPPORT
>>>>
>>>> 6.  What holds what holds it up?  (Will this work on all boats?) 
>>>> THE BOOM AGAIN!
>>>>
>>>> 7.  Panels or One Piece.  The BR might have more uses if it went 
>>>> up  PANELS SOUND BEST
>>>> in panels.  One panel could be used as a sun shade if it could be 
>>>> mounted below the boom, and remained independent of the boom so it 
>>>> could be used instead of a Bimini while sailing.  Panels could be 
>>>> added over time to reduce the initial cost.  But the resulting 
>>>> structure wouldn't be as solid.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 8.  And how about:
>>>>
>>>> On-site installation techniques -- Snaps must be added to boats? YES
>>>>
>>>> Multiple Use Considerations --
>>>>
>>>> Are removable battens in the fabric viable for structural support?  
>>>> SUPPORT PERPENDICULAR TO THE BOOM MUST BE STRONG BUT ARE CRITICAL
>>>>
>>>> Can the stays be used for support? MAYBE
>>>>
>>>> Can the topping lift be used for support? YES
>>>>
>>>> Can the structure be tied down instead of snapped into position?  I 
>>>> WOULD PREFER SNAPS FOR SECURITY, SIMPLICITY AND A BETTER FIT.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It appears there are 4-5 somewhat solid orders for Boom Rooms.  
>>>> This is enough to make patterns, and commission work.  Stan is 
>>>> welcome to take whatever he wants from this deal, we just would 
>>>> like to get the best Boom Rooms that have ever been made.
>>>>
>>>> Dave will be going down to Edenton to make final decisions for his 
>>>> own boat, and to find out from Stan where he wants to be in the 
>>>> Boom Room Syndicate.  Any thoughts on this matter from anyone are 
>>>> welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>
>>>>
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