[Rhodes22-list] BR Frame

Fri Feb 3 09:33:43 EST 2006

Dave,

What are the reasons for not using PVC?

Easy to clean.  Easy to mark (Slim's markings showing where each piece 
goes are very useful--I mark all my stuff, too.) Light weight.  Easy to 
fabricate.

Not as cool as stainless steel?

It seems to me it would be easy enough to put threads on the ends of the 
PVC and screw them together.

I haven't done a whole lot of tenting, but I've done some PTEing, and as 
solid as that rig is, I take down my Pop Top and remove the fabric when 
the wind starts blowing.  Same is true of my mast and sails.  The BR 
would be the first thing to come down, it has nearly as much surface 
area as my main sail. 

I think one of the important things about sailing is knowing when to 
reef, and reefing before you get in trouble.  I also think we would all 
know when to take down the BR, irrespective of frame.

Bill Effros

Slim wrote:

>Dave, et al,
>
>First of all, the PTE has us all kind of spoiled.  You just flop it over the
>pop top and snap it down--no poles, no wires, nothing.  Too cool!
>
>I've done a lot of tenting ever since I was a boy scout and I think I've
>used every kind of tent pole there is and I've spent many nights in some
>really bad weather in tents, including a tornado in northern MN.  Flexible
>frames seem to be the best overall for use, cost and storage.  Rigidity is
>the enemy when the wind picks up.  So yeah, I'm still in favor of the 1" PVC
>for this project.  What's not to like?  It'll hold up fine up to about 20 or
>more.  Above that, you should be taking it down no matter what kind of frame
>you have.  Difficult to uncouple?  No more than anything else and easier
>than most.  You spit on your hands and twist and pull.
>
>Slim     
>
>On 2/2/06 7:35 PM, "David Bradley" <dwbrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>>Slim, do you find that the PVC is difficult to uncouple?  If you were
>>starting new and had a choice of PVC, stainless, or aluminum, would
>>you choose PVC again?
>>
>>Dave Bradley
>>
>>On 2/2/06, Slim <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Art,
>>>
>>>What do you have against PVC?  It's sturdy, flexible, cheap, easily
>>>assembled and stowed and easy to replace.  I stash the frame on the shelf in
>>>the V-berth.  Where can you stow a hard SS frame and how much does it cost?
>>>
>>>Slim
>>>
>>>On 2/1/06 9:46 PM, "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Ed,
>>>>
>>>>Try it, you might like it.  I would not attempt it with PVC pipe for the
>>>>frame, but I have with SS tubing. The 175 alone (or motoring without sail)
>>>>can
>>>>provide a pleasant outing.  The alternative of having to disassemble an
>>>>entire
>>>>room seems like alot of work if not mandatory and not desired.  Speaking of
>>>>adapting the Rhodes in this way, I frankly cannot remember this much
>>>>enthusiasm generated for an extra portable room on any sailboat.
>>>>
>>>>The point of sailing without removing the top frame is for cover from the
>>>>sun,
>>>>not to keep a 'room' in place underway.
>>>>
>>>>BTW, ask Rummy if the Rhodes could suffice as  a party barge, or a nice
>>>>week-long excursion boat.
>>>>
>>>>Art
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
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>>>>>From: "Tootle (sent by Nabble.com)" <lists at nabble.com>
>>>>>Sent: Feb 1, 2006 7:53 PM
>>>>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Slim's Tool
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Slim,
>>>>>     So you used Stan's tool for grommets?  Then you are the one who made
>>>>>off
>>>>>with hole cutter?  He was wondering where it went:-)
>>>>>      If you go up north this time of the year, you will see a whole lot of
>>>>>boats that look like yours with the boom room.  They call it shrink wrap.
>>>>>
>>>>>Art,
>>>>>     The Rhodes 22 is not a party barge, people put up a boom room to
>>>>>sleep,
>>>>>or stay out of the weather while partying privately.  I doubt any but you
>>>>>are
>>>>>concerned about sailing with a boom in place.  If you need that much room
>>>>>while you are sailing you need a 40 foot boat:-)  Now I concede that some
>>>>>may
>>>>>try after partying, but we both know they should stay put.
>>>>>
>>>>>MJM,
>>>>>     We are waiting on a report?  I bet the only stumbling block is that
>>>>>they
>>>>>have a non smoking environment?  Michael, how about adding video clips to
>>>>>the
>>>>>permitted attachments?  See what I mean under separate cover.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed K
>>>>>Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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