[Rhodes22-list] BR Intellectual Property

[Todd Tavares]

Art,

    I have no personal experience with either bimini tops or the boom room.  Check out http://www.outdoortextiles.com   You may get better prices that you had figured.  The owner Paul can be somewhat of an a**, but you will get pretty good prices.  He sells on e-bay too.

Todd T.



> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] BR Intellectual Property
> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 18:11:11 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
> 
> 
> Todd,
> A good suggestion on the Bimini.  What bimini design is best (Brand 
> & Model) for the Rhodes.  Are any made with SS supports?  Some have 
> feelings about a bimini on a 22' sailboat, but does it really 
> hinder cruising type sailing, or racing with the bimini stored.  I 
> am more curious about actual experience than theory, speculation, 
> or raw emotion.
> Art
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> > From: Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com>
> > Sent: Feb 3, 2006 4:35 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] BR Intellectual Property
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> >   Which Todd are you talking to?  We have at least a couple on 
> > the list now.  I guess I'll have to start signing my last initial 
> > from now on.    As far as the boom room design and any 
> > intellectual property rights go...I personally am not involved in 
> > this discussion.  I guess Brad's comment 'money talks and BS 
> > walks' should sum it all up nicely.
> >
> >  It is funny though, how all of this talk of a boom room 
> > syndicate quickly dissolved...especially when you mentioned 
> > giving the design to Stan.  If boat owners want to give Stan 
> > input and work with him on this, then that is fantastic. If you 
> > want to act as an agent on spec for GBI,  (maybe Robert S. has a 
> > cool Latin phrase for this ;-D)then more power to you.  The 
> > question on most mind's here is probably not what portion of the 
> > profit goes to Stan, but how much or what is Bill going to get 
> > out of this whole thing?  I could tell you what I REALLY think 
> > but ...it would cost ya.  I'd offer my opinion for the measly sum 
> > of a signed copy of your book.  Not the one you are thinking 
> > about.  The one about how to sell my house in five days.
> >
> >
> > Todd T.
> >
> > Addendum; (Latin for PS?)  Seriously though, I think it makes 
> > more sense to use Roger's design as a start.  Why have a bimini 
> > AND a boom room?  In Rogers design, the framework of the bimini 
> > does double duty.  It is just more efficient use of space, 
> > materials and weight. IMHO
> >
> >
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
> >> To: "R22 List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] BR Intellectual Property
> >> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:56:46 -0500
> >>
> >>
> >> Todd,
> >>
> >> Please help me here.
> >>
> >> As usual, Stan has taken a completely different approach to
> >> Dodger/Awning construction from the traditional marine source approach.
> >> Most of us have enough faith in Stan to accept his experience at face value.
> >>
> >> We are planning to take all of his experience and build from it a
> >> low-cost highly useful addition to our boats.  Stan has graciously told
> >> us which way to go, from the many possibilities.  For this he surely is
> >> entitled to something.  What?  How do we give it to him?  Do we each pay
> >> him a royalty if we build BRs based on his concepts?
> >>
> >> It looks like if each of us gets some PVC or another material if
> >> preferred, we can each build a frame based on Stan's design.  We can
> >> then each make panels that hang from that frame.  The panels can be made
> >> of blue plastic, or anything else once we publish frame sizes and shapes.
> >>
> >> Which means each of us could have a BR this summer if we want one.  We
> >> can pool our knowledge and come up with common specs for everything.  We
> >> can improve panels and frames as we can afford to update.
> >>
> >> Stan would wind up owning the patterns, and specs for the room.  Over
> >> time he could fabricate and sell things for less than any individual
> >> could make the first one.  People could start with plans for a cheap
> >> room, and graduate to more and more screened and clear panels as desired
> >> over time.  If we are using the room, I would guess we would spring for
> >> more expensive and versatile panels.
> >>
> >> What is a fair royalty for using Stan's concept?  How do we pay him?
> >> This will, of course, be honor system.
> >>
> >> Bill Effros
> >>
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