[Rhodes22-list] BR Frame Material

[Arthur H. Czerwonky]

Dave,

I don't think you need to use a yoke underway.  Space is so precious.

An all-brass groumet is mounted onto the sunbrella on either side of the 'tangent' or contact point with the boom top.  The groumet should not rub or have contact with the boom.  These two groumets are at the front and the other two at the back end of the cover.  Ergo no movement fore or aft.

Four ties from the corners are connected to the rail of the boat to prevent shifting.  Tie the windward ties first for obvious reasons.  If the tube is SS, and the ties are connected securely, you are set with the top.

Back to the boom.  Use a connector, clew to backstay, to insure no boom swing while the top goes on.

I hope this written to be understood easily.

Art

-----Original Message-----
>From: David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com>
>Sent: Feb 4, 2006 1:34 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] BR Frame Material
>
>Peter, thanks.  Definitely anxious to get my boat!
>
>The yoke idea came from Stan so I'm playing advocate and trying to
>push the idea forward a bit further.
>
>The benefits I'd see of a yoke (vs. a frame sitting on the boom
>loosely) are that it would hold the frame in place while getting the
>side panels or straps attached, so it doesn't flop around.  Could see
>this being useful on a windy day.  Would also help prevent a wind from
>getting under the roof and pulling it off the boom.  Perhaps a velcro
>strap from the frame passed under the boom provides enough of the same
>beneft.
>
>The issue with a yoke is that it would need to be custom molded or
>fabricated, adding expense.
>
>However, once that's done, it does provide differentiation for Stan,
>and may provide ease of set-up and other benefits.  (Sorry, the
>marketing guy shows through once in a while.)
>
>I like Ed's idea of HDPE if we were going to try and have a mold made.
> I think it's stronger than PVC, which if I recall is known to crack
>especially if cold.  Would think a yoke could be hand-made from SS or
>aluminum if we want to try a prototype.
>
>I'm guessing that we need to be sure not to mix metals in the frame. 
>Is anyone worried about an uncovered frame or yoke scratching the
>boom?
>
>Thanks all for the input.  Keep the ideas flowing.
>
>Dave
>
>
>
>
>On 2/4/06, Peter Thorn <pthorn at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>> Dave,
>>
>> When you get your boat, you will understand this better.  You don't need a
>> yoke.  Tighten the backstay, adjust the topping lift, take up the slack with
>> the mainsheet -- the boom is then held in a fixed position.
>>
>> PT
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 11:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] BR Frame Material
>>
>>
>> > Easily and well.
>> > Art
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >From: David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com>
>> > >Sent: Feb 4, 2006 9:33 AM
>> > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] BR Frame Material
>> > >
>> > >Wouldn't the boom support the weight?  If the frame had a yoke on the
>> > >boom it would balance until the side panels or straps were attached to
>> > >provide lateral support.
>> > >
>> > >Dave
>> > >
>> > >On 2/4/06, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>> > >> What would be the weight of a Stainless Steel frame?
>> > >>
>> > >> Is this something we want to suspend from a rope on a cleat?
>> > >>
>> > >> Bill Effros
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