[Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed

[Arthur H. Czerwonky]

We used to use 'Sniffer' on the P2 and P3, not useful now because no one uses diesel boats anymore, and the crews now are able to take showers more often.
Art
-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>Sent: Feb 12, 2006 10:52 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed
>
>How about sonar?  To spot the subs?  Could rig a fishfinder...
>
>Bill Effros
>
>Michel Meltzer wrote:
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>>Radar is overkill, but mostly due to price, size and power draw. -mjm
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Bodnar
>>>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:15 AM
>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed
>>>
>>>Ed,
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>>>I think you are missing a point ... although I'm going to defend two.
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>>>When I buy a new car, I option all the latest safety equipment, but
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>>I'm
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>>>not planning for an accident.  I'm spending the bucks on all that
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>>extra
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>>>equipment, so that if there is an accident, and if some one should get
>>>hurt, I will know that we had the best chance of survival available at
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>>the
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>>>time.
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>>>Now I've been lucky, I've been out in fog only once, and we decided
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>>that
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>>>we would go out anyway to experience it.   It was an excellent
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>>learning
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>>>experience, not necessarily a good day sailing.  We took precautions,
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>>by
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>>>sailing in relatively shallow water, (an R22 advantage) to stay out of
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>>the
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>>>way of faster more powerful boats.  As I said, a learning experience;
>>>which, I'm sure, will make us better prepared to handle fog when we
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>>are
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>>>out on that clear sunny day in the middle of lake Erie and the fog
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>>just
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>>>closes in.  At that time I will want the best equipment available, and
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>>I
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>>>will want a GPS to confirm my position and help me make decisions
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>>should I
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>>>be near the shipping channels.  If radar was practical on an R22, I'd
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>>have
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>>>it.  However, I've just read about a radio transponder system that
>>>commercial vessels are required to use, and monitoring it with a
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>>MAPPING
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>>>GPS attached, sounds like a more reliable method of identifying big
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>>ships
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>>>in the area.  As I said the best equipment available.
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>>>The second point:  Boys and their toys.  Some of us take pride in our
>>>skills and accomplishments, in a minimalist fashion, and others of us
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>>get
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>>>great enjoyment in pressing buttons and watching little teeny boxes do
>>>magic  that wasn't even possible with a room full of computers using
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>>Kilo-
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>>>watts of power, a few short years ago.
>>>
>>>Dan Bodnar
>>>S/V QOL (Quality of Life)
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>>>-----Original Message-----
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>>>>From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>>Sent: Feb 12, 2006 9:41 AM
>>>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, Wally, Mary Lou, big spenders
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>>>>    The GPS is great, but how much GPS is necessary?  Is external
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>>>antenna
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>>>>    necessary on a Rhodes 22?  A good hand held is all that is
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>>>necessary.
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>>>>    The big bucks some want to spend for color wide screen
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>>chartplotter
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>>>is
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>>>>utter waste.
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>>>>    Wally do you have a mount with external antenna for your kayak?
>>>>    For night sailing on Lake Hartwell we do not have one
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>>lighthouse,
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>>>>especially
>>>>    not Michael's ten lighthouses.  Shipping channels?  Yea we have
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>>a
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>>>main
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>>>>    channel but as Rummy will tell you about an affair with the
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>>Carver,
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>>>>they
>>>>    are the ones on autopilot, not the small boats.
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>>>>    These newbies maybe should learn their boat before they sail in
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>>fog,
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>>>at
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>>>>night
>>>>     or navigate at night or potentially foul weather far from home
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>>>port.
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>>>>By that time
>>>>     the gear will be outdated.
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>>>>     As for that Maine sailor who navigates around icebergs to his
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>>>island
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>>>>retreat, his fellow
>>>>     Eskimos did it in kayaks without GPS.   Maybe he should
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>>consider
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>>>>Eskimo day camp?
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>>>>     Those worried about getting struck need one of those radar
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>>units
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>>>with
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>>>>hazard
>>>>     approching warning attached to good klaxon.  You know like on a
>>>>submarine, dive, dive!
>>>>     Listen here:
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>>>http://www.classic-car-accessories.co.uk/acatalog/soundtklaxonred.html
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>>>>     (Those units are available, but might have a large battery
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>>draw,
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>>>where
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>>>>is that spread sheet.)
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>>>>Ed K
>>>>Greenville, SC, USA
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>>>>--
>>>>View this message in context:
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>>http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-in-fog-low-
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>>>visibility-Re%3A-GPS-reply-t1104918.html#a2896741
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>>>>Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com.
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