[Rhodes22-list] Re: FL Syndicat (was A story of a boat)

Mon Jan 9 11:18:54 EST 2006

Mark me as "Very Interested" as well. BW

>From: "Herb Parsons" <HParsons at parsonsys.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: FL Syndicat (was A story of a boat)
>Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:59:47 -0600
>
>OK. Sometimes I just loose track of things. Please keep me marked as 
>"interested"
>
>Herb Parsons
>
>S/V O'Jure
>1976 O'Day 25
>Lake Grapevine, N TX
>
>S/V Reve de Papa
>1971 Coronado 35
>Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
>
>
> >>> bill at effros.com 1/7/2006 12:07:54 pm >>>
>Herb,
>
>There was enough interest to indicate it might be possible, but not
>enough interest to do it with the boat that was sitting in Melbourne.
>Michael is suggesting an alternate approach that could work if it can be
>made to pay for General Boats.  It seems to me a Demo boat in Miami in
>the winter months has a lot of potential for GB, and that those
>interested in the idea could grab some sail time in the middle of the
>winter at reasonable rates that would more than pay for GB.
>
>First, we've got to find out if Elton is still talking to us, and then
>if it has left such a bad taste in his mouth that he doesn't want
>anything to do with this idea ever again, since we got him into this in
>the first place.
>
>Bill Effros
>
>
>
>Herb Parsons wrote:
>
> >I thought the FL Syndicate idea was dead. I guess I've missed some of the 
>info. Is it still in the "trying to figure out details" stage?
> >
> >
> >Herb Parsons
> >
> >S/V O'Jure
> >1976 O'Day 25
> >Lake Grapevine, N TX
> >
> >S/V Reve de Papa
> >1971 Coronado 35
> >Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>>>bill at effros.com 1/7/2006 10:50:45 am >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >Michael,
> >
> >I think the Florida Syndicate II idea may have a lot of merit.  If GB is
> >still going to the Miami Boat Show, they could move a boat down there
> >early, rent it out around the boat show, and take it back with them (or
> >sell it).  This would be a win for everyone.
> >
> >Bill Effros
> >
> >Michel Meltzer wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>It the "friction" that goes with one of these, worst yet, it only the
> >>starting of the saga. The issues are not so much cash, but the time is
> >>would "suck" down. Something tells me, the boat fate is more tied to the
> >>shape of the interior, stans 30 year old spare parts bin will help a
> >>lot, paint the hull and fix the glass work are simple(even hull damage).
> >>If the interior is shot from the water, well that is a lot of
> >>labor......................
> >>
> >>-mjm
> >>
> >>I have an Idea for "FA Syndicate II", see if there is interest for a
> >>in FA for a few month period, like Dec to March, book some soild blocks
> >>of time, have stan move on of the demo boat down their for the period.
> >>-mjm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
> >>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
> >>>Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:17 PM
> >>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A story of a boat
> >>>
> >>>Michael,
> >>>
> >>>I'm glad I listened to you.
> >>>
> >>>Bill Effros
> >>>
> >>>Michel Meltzer wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Just got a phone call, A boat story just came up :-)
> >>>>
> >>>>Some one we all known just arrived in FA today.
> >>>>
> >>>>Get to the boat yard about 3pm.
> >>>>They down not have a boat lift.
> >>>>They do have a forklift, but the tongs do not say up(some about the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>oil
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>get hot and it lowers on it own).
> >>>>This is not a boat yard, more a storage place, people are not use to
> >>>>dealing with boats, a "boat" load of insurance damaged boats piled
> >>>>their. The seller is in RI and these guys are in FA.
> >>>>The are boat on eitherside so the forklift can not get in.
> >>>>After some harang the boat next to it was able to be moved. The
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>trailer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>did not fall apart :-)
> >>>>The forklift can not get under the rhodes (not sure why).
> >>>>Someone we know is think quick :-)
> >>>>He looks around the place an finds a long length of rope, 1 1/2 inch
> >>>>that look like it from 1900, smells like it from 1900, and is fraded
> >>>>like it from 1900, but figures that will do.
> >>>>The bow eye is loose, can no do the Standard 3 point GB lift.
> >>>>The boat is full of water. Over weight(as in tons), will crush the
> >>>>trailer and the "flackly" forklift is not helping with it self lower
> >>>>forks,  can not get his knife to cut the lazerret hoose.
> >>>>Drill time, Goes to the store to buy a drill, but there is a problem,
> >>>>the new drill has an empty battery. Go to customer services and tell
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>girl he has a big problem(look on face time), after a second it
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>plugged
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>in and he is killing time.
> >>>>Go back to boat, it peeing.......... and getting dark...........
> >>>>Forklift guy bring in some friend, they rig the boat with rope from
> >>>>hell, and the get the boat onto the trailer.
> >>>>Their no back rail so has to build something to support the mast, and
> >>>>tie down the loose stuff.
> >>>>Loose bow eye mean he needs to but some straps and strap the boat
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>down,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>6 hours later he still working on it and
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>hungry.......................
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Boat in wrought shape but Stan should be able to bring it back to
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>life.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>All the new that fit to print -mjm
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>Elton is on his way to Florida to pick up the boat.  (I think.)
> >>>
> >>>Bill Effros
> >>>
> >>>Michel Meltzer wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Way not make a deal with stan, let him get it for what you payied for
> >>>>it(could even trade for work on your own boat), have Elton pick it up
> >>>>and you are done. KISS -mjm
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
> >>>>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
> >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 3:31 PM
> >>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Florida Syndicate--2006
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Sorry Luis,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>No, it didn't go back channel, it's just that no one had time for it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Brad punted--he totally ran out of time to deal with the boat on any
> >>>>>level.  I bought it from him, but have had no time to follow up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>There
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>wasn't enough commitment in the Syndicate to justify setting it
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>up--the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>business model wasn't going to work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I am open to ideas regarding what to do with it now.  I still plan to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>be
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>in Florida in roughly a month, and will deal with it then, if I'm
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>unable
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>to work something out before then.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I have been contacted back channel, but I would sooner do everything
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>on
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>the list, so everyone has a fair shot, and everyone sees what is
> >>>>>happening.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Bill Effros
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Luis Guzman wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Happy New Year to all rhodies.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I spent the first day of the year sailing on a 23' Stiletto
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>Catamaran.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Wow, what a ride.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>We were crusing at 14 knots and at a point we reached 17 knots.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>We met two other stilettos and raced (flew) accross the bay. Then
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>we
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>all rafted together for lunch and drinks. After all the food was 
>gone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>we
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>raced again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>It was great way to start the year.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Luis
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>S/V PARADISE
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>P.S. What ever happened to Brad's ebay boat and to the syndicate?
> >>>>>>Is the syndicate talking offline?
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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