[Rhodes22-list] Re: FL Syndicat (was A story of a boat)

Robert Quinn rjquinn at bellsouth.net
Tue Jan 10 11:18:58 EST 2006 

Interested.

Bob and Kathy on the  "NoKaOi"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: FL Syndicat (was A story of a boat)


> Me Too
>
> Chris G
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 9:18 AM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: FL Syndicat (was A story of a boat)
>
>
>> Mark me as "Very Interested" as well. BW
>>
>>
>> >From: "Herb Parsons" <HParsons at parsonsys.com>
>> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: FL Syndicat (was A story of a boat)
>> >Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:59:47 -0600
>> >
>> >OK. Sometimes I just loose track of things. Please keep me marked as
>> >"interested"
>> >
>> >Herb Parsons
>> >
>> >S/V O'Jure
>> >1976 O'Day 25
>> >Lake Grapevine, N TX
>> >
>> >S/V Reve de Papa
>> >1971 Coronado 35
>> >Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
>> >
>> >
>> > >>> bill at effros.com 1/7/2006 12:07:54 pm >>>
>> >Herb,
>> >
>> >There was enough interest to indicate it might be possible, but not
>> >enough interest to do it with the boat that was sitting in Melbourne.
>> >Michael is suggesting an alternate approach that could work if it can be
>> >made to pay for General Boats.  It seems to me a Demo boat in Miami in
>> >the winter months has a lot of potential for GB, and that those
>> >interested in the idea could grab some sail time in the middle of the
>> >winter at reasonable rates that would more than pay for GB.
>> >
>> >First, we've got to find out if Elton is still talking to us, and then
>> >if it has left such a bad taste in his mouth that he doesn't want
>> >anything to do with this idea ever again, since we got him into this in
>> >the first place.
>> >
>> >Bill Effros
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Herb Parsons wrote:
>> >
>> > >I thought the FL Syndicate idea was dead. I guess I've missed some of
> the
>> >info. Is it still in the "trying to figure out details" stage?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Herb Parsons
>> > >
>> > >S/V O'Jure
>> > >1976 O'Day 25
>> > >Lake Grapevine, N TX
>> > >
>> > >S/V Reve de Papa
>> > >1971 Coronado 35
>> > >Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>>>bill at effros.com 1/7/2006 10:50:45 am >>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >Michael,
>> > >
>> > >I think the Florida Syndicate II idea may have a lot of merit.  If GB
> is
>> > >still going to the Miami Boat Show, they could move a boat down there
>> > >early, rent it out around the boat show, and take it back with them 
>> > >(or
>> > >sell it).  This would be a win for everyone.
>> > >
>> > >Bill Effros
>> > >
>> > >Michel Meltzer wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>It the "friction" that goes with one of these, worst yet, it only the
>> > >>starting of the saga. The issues are not so much cash, but the time 
>> > >>is
>> > >>would "suck" down. Something tells me, the boat fate is more tied to
> the
>> > >>shape of the interior, stans 30 year old spare parts bin will help a
>> > >>lot, paint the hull and fix the glass work are simple(even hull
> damage).
>> > >>If the interior is shot from the water, well that is a lot of
>> > >>labor......................
>> > >>
>> > >>-mjm
>> > >>
>> > >>I have an Idea for "FA Syndicate II", see if there is interest for a
>> > >>in FA for a few month period, like Dec to March, book some soild
> blocks
>> > >>of time, have stan move on of the demo boat down their for the 
>> > >>period.
>> > >>-mjm
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>-----Original Message-----
>> > >>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>> > >>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>> > >>>Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:17 PM
>> > >>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> > >>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A story of a boat
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Michael,
>> > >>>
>> > >>>I'm glad I listened to you.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Bill Effros
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Michel Meltzer wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>Just got a phone call, A boat story just came up :-)
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Some one we all known just arrived in FA today.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Get to the boat yard about 3pm.
>> > >>>>They down not have a boat lift.
>> > >>>>They do have a forklift, but the tongs do not say up(some about the
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>oil
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>>get hot and it lowers on it own).
>> > >>>>This is not a boat yard, more a storage place, people are not use 
>> > >>>>to
>> > >>>>dealing with boats, a "boat" load of insurance damaged boats piled
>> > >>>>their. The seller is in RI and these guys are in FA.
>> > >>>>The are boat on eitherside so the forklift can not get in.
>> > >>>>After some harang the boat next to it was able to be moved. The
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>trailer
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>>did not fall apart :-)
>> > >>>>The forklift can not get under the rhodes (not sure why).
>> > >>>>Someone we know is think quick :-)
>> > >>>>He looks around the place an finds a long length of rope, 1 1/2 
>> > >>>>inch
>> > >>>>that look like it from 1900, smells like it from 1900, and is 
>> > >>>>fraded
>> > >>>>like it from 1900, but figures that will do.
>> > >>>>The bow eye is loose, can no do the Standard 3 point GB lift.
>> > >>>>The boat is full of water. Over weight(as in tons), will crush the
>> > >>>>trailer and the "flackly" forklift is not helping with it self 
>> > >>>>lower
>> > >>>>forks,  can not get his knife to cut the lazerret hoose.
>> > >>>>Drill time, Goes to the store to buy a drill, but there is a
> problem,
>> > >>>>the new drill has an empty battery. Go to customer services and 
>> > >>>>tell
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>the
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>>girl he has a big problem(look on face time), after a second it
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>plugged
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>>in and he is killing time.
>> > >>>>Go back to boat, it peeing.......... and getting dark...........
>> > >>>>Forklift guy bring in some friend, they rig the boat with rope from
>> > >>>>hell, and the get the boat onto the trailer.
>> > >>>>Their no back rail so has to build something to support the mast,
> and
>> > >>>>tie down the loose stuff.
>> > >>>>Loose bow eye mean he needs to but some straps and strap the boat
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>down,
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>>6 hours later he still working on it and
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>hungry.......................
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>>Boat in wrought shape but Stan should be able to bring it back to
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>life.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>>All the new that fit to print -mjm
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
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>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
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>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> >
>>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Elton is on his way to Florida to pick up the boat.  (I think.)
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Bill Effros
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Michel Meltzer wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>Way not make a deal with stan, let him get it for what you payied
> for
>> > >>>>it(could even trade for work on your own boat), have Elton pick it
> up
>> > >>>>and you are done. KISS -mjm
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>>-----Original Message-----
>> > >>>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>> > >>>>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>> > >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 3:31 PM
>> > >>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> > >>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Florida Syndicate--2006
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>Sorry Luis,
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>No, it didn't go back channel, it's just that no one had time for
> it.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>Brad punted--he totally ran out of time to deal with the boat on
> any
>> > >>>>>level.  I bought it from him, but have had no time to follow up.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>There
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>>wasn't enough commitment in the Syndicate to justify setting it
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>up--the
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>>business model wasn't going to work.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>I am open to ideas regarding what to do with it now.  I still plan
> to
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>be
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>>in Florida in roughly a month, and will deal with it then, if I'm
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>unable
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>>to work something out before then.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>I have been contacted back channel, but I would sooner do
> everything
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>on
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>>the list, so everyone has a fair shot, and everyone sees what is
>> > >>>>>happening.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>Bill Effros
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>Luis Guzman wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>>Happy New Year to all rhodies.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>I spent the first day of the year sailing on a 23' Stiletto
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>Catamaran.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>>Wow, what a ride.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>>We were crusing at 14 knots and at a point we reached 17 knots.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>We met two other stilettos and raced (flew) accross the bay. Then
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>we
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>>all rafted together for lunch and drinks. After all the food was
>> >gone,
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>we
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>>raced again.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>>It was great way to start the year.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>Luis
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>S/V PARADISE
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>P.S. What ever happened to Brad's ebay boat and to the syndicate?
>> > >>>>>>Is the syndicate talking offline?
>> > >>>>>>
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>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
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>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
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>> > >>>>
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>> > >>>>
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