[Rhodes22-list] Florida Boat Rental List

Wed Jan 11 11:54:45 EST 2006

Please me to the list, jerry

S/V jonquil


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---- Robert Dobson <robertdobson777 at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> Im am interested in being on the list.
>    
>   Bob Dobson
>    
>   s/v Kee Lee
> 
> Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>   Sorry I have not kept the running list, but here is part of it from memory:
> 
> Bob and Kathy Quinn
> Herb
> Bob Weber
> Slim
> Chris
> Bill Effros
> Bill W.
> Brad
> Brad's Friend Ken
> Jerry Lowe
> 
> I'm sure there were more, but I don't have the time to go back through 
> the files, so if you want to be added to this list, just reply again to 
> this post and ask to be added. This time around I will maintain the 
> running total.
> 
> There is no commitment on either side, it's just sort of a straw poll, 
> and if it can be put together the people who show interest first will be 
> given first shot at dates.
> 
> The idea has evolved to this: Stan has extra boats, and often tows one 
> to Florida for the boat show. People in northern climes dream of 
> sailing at about the same time General Boats has a boat available in 
> Miami. Maybe General Boats could make some extra pocket change by 
> allowing people to rent the boat already there at an extremely 
> attractive rate, possibly resulting in the sale of a clean used boat to 
> someone who would not be able to afford a more expensive boat...
> 
> Something like that.
> 
> Sorry if I forgot your earlier support, just post again...
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> Robert Quinn wrote:
> 
> > Interested.
> >
> > Bob and Kathy on the "NoKaOi"
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Geankoplis" 
> > 
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: FL Syndicat (was A story of a boat)
> >
> >
> >> Me Too
> >>
> >> Chris G
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Weber" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 9:18 AM
> >> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: FL Syndicat (was A story of a boat)
> >>
> >>
> >>> Mark me as "Very Interested" as well. BW
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >From: "Herb Parsons" 
> >>> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list 
> >>> >To: 
> >>> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: FL Syndicat (was A story of a boat)
> >>> >Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:59:47 -0600
> >>> >
> >>> >OK. Sometimes I just loose track of things. Please keep me marked as
> >>> >"interested"
> >>> >
> >>> >Herb Parsons
> >>> >
> >>> >S/V O'Jure
> >>> >1976 O'Day 25
> >>> >Lake Grapevine, N TX
> >>> >
> >>> >S/V Reve de Papa
> >>> >1971 Coronado 35
> >>> >Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > >>> bill at effros.com 1/7/2006 12:07:54 pm >>>
> >>> >Herb,
> >>> >
> >>> >There was enough interest to indicate it might be possible, but not
> >>> >enough interest to do it with the boat that was sitting in Melbourne.
> >>> >Michael is suggesting an alternate approach that could work if it 
> >>> can be
> >>> >made to pay for General Boats. It seems to me a Demo boat in Miami in
> >>> >the winter months has a lot of potential for GB, and that those
> >>> >interested in the idea could grab some sail time in the middle of the
> >>> >winter at reasonable rates that would more than pay for GB.
> >>> >
> >>> >First, we've got to find out if Elton is still talking to us, and then
> >>> >if it has left such a bad taste in his mouth that he doesn't want
> >>> >anything to do with this idea ever again, since we got him into 
> >>> this in
> >>> >the first place.
> >>> >
> >>> >Bill Effros
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >Herb Parsons wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > >I thought the FL Syndicate idea was dead. I guess I've missed 
> >>> some of
> >>
> >> the
> >>
> >>> >info. Is it still in the "trying to figure out details" stage?
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >Herb Parsons
> >>> > >
> >>> > >S/V O'Jure
> >>> > >1976 O'Day 25
> >>> > >Lake Grapevine, N TX
> >>> > >
> >>> > >S/V Reve de Papa
> >>> > >1971 Coronado 35
> >>> > >Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >>>>bill at effros.com 1/7/2006 10:50:45 am >>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >Michael,
> >>> > >
> >>> > >I think the Florida Syndicate II idea may have a lot of merit. 
> >>> If GB
> >>
> >> is
> >>
> >>> > >still going to the Miami Boat Show, they could move a boat down 
> >>> there
> >>> > >early, rent it out around the boat show, and take it back with 
> >>> them > >(or
> >>> > >sell it). This would be a win for everyone.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >Bill Effros
> >>> > >
> >>> > >Michel Meltzer wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >>It the "friction" that goes with one of these, worst yet, it 
> >>> only the
> >>> > >>starting of the saga. The issues are not so much cash, but the 
> >>> time > >>is
> >>> > >>would "suck" down. Something tells me, the boat fate is more 
> >>> tied to
> >>
> >> the
> >>
> >>> > >>shape of the interior, stans 30 year old spare parts bin will 
> >>> help a
> >>> > >>lot, paint the hull and fix the glass work are simple(even hull
> >>
> >> damage).
> >>
> >>> > >>If the interior is shot from the water, well that is a lot of
> >>> > >>labor......................
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>-mjm
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>I have an Idea for "FA Syndicate II", see if there is interest 
> >>> for a
> >>> > >>in FA for a few month period, like Dec to March, book some soild
> >>
> >> blocks
> >>
> >>> > >>of time, have stan move on of the demo boat down their for the > 
> >>> >>period.
> >>> > >>-mjm
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>> > >>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
> >>> > >>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
> >>> > >>>Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:17 PM
> >>> > >>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >>> > >>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A story of a boat
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>Michael,
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>I'm glad I listened to you.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>Bill Effros
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>Michel Meltzer wrote:
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>>Just got a phone call, A boat story just came up :-)
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>Some one we all known just arrived in FA today.
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>Get to the boat yard about 3pm.
> >>> > >>>>They down not have a boat lift.
> >>> > >>>>They do have a forklift, but the tongs do not say up(some 
> >>> about the
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>oil
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>>>get hot and it lowers on it own).
> >>> > >>>>This is not a boat yard, more a storage place, people are not 
> >>> use > >>>>to
> >>> > >>>>dealing with boats, a "boat" load of insurance damaged boats 
> >>> piled
> >>> > >>>>their. The seller is in RI and these guys are in FA.
> >>> > >>>>The are boat on eitherside so the forklift can not get in.
> >>> > >>>>After some harang the boat next to it was able to be moved. The
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>trailer
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>>>did not fall apart :-)
> >>> > >>>>The forklift can not get under the rhodes (not sure why).
> >>> > >>>>Someone we know is think quick :-)
> >>> > >>>>He looks around the place an finds a long length of rope, 1 
> >>> 1/2 > >>>>inch
> >>> > >>>>that look like it from 1900, smells like it from 1900, and is 
> >>> > >>>>fraded
> >>> > >>>>like it from 1900, but figures that will do.
> >>> > >>>>The bow eye is loose, can no do the Standard 3 point GB lift.
> >>> > >>>>The boat is full of water. Over weight(as in tons), will crush 
> >>> the
> >>> > >>>>trailer and the "flackly" forklift is not helping with it self 
> >>> > >>>>lower
> >>> > >>>>forks, can not get his knife to cut the lazerret hoose.
> >>> > >>>>Drill time, Goes to the store to buy a drill, but there is a
> >>
> >> problem,
> >>
> >>> > >>>>the new drill has an empty battery. Go to customer services 
> >>> and > >>>>tell
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>the
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>>>girl he has a big problem(look on face time), after a second it
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>plugged
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>>>in and he is killing time.
> >>> > >>>>Go back to boat, it peeing.......... and getting dark...........
> >>> > >>>>Forklift guy bring in some friend, they rig the boat with rope 
> >>> from
> >>> > >>>>hell, and the get the boat onto the trailer.
> >>> > >>>>Their no back rail so has to build something to support the mast,
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >>> > >>>>tie down the loose stuff.
> >>> > >>>>Loose bow eye mean he needs to but some straps and strap the boat
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>down,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>>>6 hours later he still working on it and
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>hungry.......................
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>>>Boat in wrought shape but Stan should be able to bring it back to
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>life.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>>>All the new that fit to print -mjm
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>__________________________________________________
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> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>__________________________________________________
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> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>Elton is on his way to Florida to pick up the boat. (I think.)
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>Bill Effros
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>Michel Meltzer wrote:
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>>Way not make a deal with stan, let him get it for what you payied
> >>
> >> for
> >>
> >>> > >>>>it(could even trade for work on your own boat), have Elton 
> >>> pick it
> >>
> >> up
> >>
> >>> > >>>>and you are done. KISS -mjm
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>> > >>>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
> >>> > >>>>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
> >>> > >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 3:31 PM
> >>> > >>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >>> > >>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Florida Syndicate--2006
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>Sorry Luis,
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>No, it didn't go back channel, it's just that no one had time 
> >>> for
> >>
> >> it.
> >>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>Brad punted--he totally ran out of time to deal with the boat on
> >>
> >> any
> >>
> >>> > >>>>>level. I bought it from him, but have had no time to follow up.
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>There
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>>wasn't enough commitment in the Syndicate to justify setting it
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>up--the
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>>business model wasn't going to work.
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>I am open to ideas regarding what to do with it now. I still 
> >>> plan
> >>
> >> to
> >>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>be
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>>in Florida in roughly a month, and will deal with it then, if 
> >>> I'm
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>unable
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>>to work something out before then.
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>I have been contacted back channel, but I would sooner do
> >>
> >> everything
> >>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>on
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>>the list, so everyone has a fair shot, and everyone sees what is
> >>> > >>>>>happening.
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>Bill Effros
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>Luis Guzman wrote:
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>Happy New Year to all rhodies.
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>I spent the first day of the year sailing on a 23' Stiletto
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>Catamaran.
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>>Wow, what a ride.
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>We were crusing at 14 knots and at a point we reached 17 knots.
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>We met two other stilettos and raced (flew) accross the bay. 
> >>> Then
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>we
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>>all rafted together for lunch and drinks. After all the food was
> >>> >gone,
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>we
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>>raced again.
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>It was great way to start the year.
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>Luis
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>S/V PARADISE
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>P.S. What ever happened to Brad's ebay boat and to the 
> >>> syndicate?
> >>> > >>>>>>Is the syndicate talking offline?
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>__________________________________________________
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> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>>
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> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
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> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
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