[Rhodes22-list] Florida Boat Rental List

Wed Jan 11 13:29:31 EST 2006

Pls add me to the interested.  Thx,
Art

-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>Sent: Jan 10, 2006 12:35 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Florida Boat Rental List
>
>Sorry I have not kept the running list, but here is part of it from memory:
>
>Bob and Kathy Quinn
>Herb
>Bob Weber
>Slim
>Chris
>Bill Effros
>Bill W.
>Brad
>Brad's Friend Ken
>Jerry Lowe
>
>I'm sure there were more, but I don't have the time to go back through 
>the files, so if you want to be added to this list, just reply again to 
>this post and ask to be added.  This time around I will maintain the 
>running total.
>
>There is no commitment on either side, it's just sort of a straw poll, 
>and if it can be put together the people who show interest first will be 
>given first shot at dates.
>
>The idea has evolved to this:  Stan has extra boats, and often tows one 
>to Florida for the boat show.  People in northern climes dream of 
>sailing at about the same time General Boats has a boat available in 
>Miami.  Maybe General Boats could make some extra pocket change by 
>allowing people to rent the boat already there at an extremely 
>attractive rate, possibly resulting in the sale of a clean used boat to 
>someone who would not be able to afford a more expensive boat...
>
>Something like that.
>
>Sorry if I forgot your earlier support, just post again...
>
>Bill Effros
>
>Robert Quinn wrote:
>
>> Interested.
>>
>> Bob and Kathy on the  "NoKaOi"
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Geankoplis" 
>> <napoli68 at charter.net>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 2:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: FL Syndicat (was A story of a boat)
>>
>>
>>> Me Too
>>>
>>> Chris G
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
>>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 9:18 AM
>>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: FL Syndicat (was A story of a boat)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mark me as "Very Interested" as well. BW
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >From: "Herb Parsons" <HParsons at parsonsys.com>
>>>> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> >To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: FL Syndicat (was A story of a boat)
>>>> >Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:59:47 -0600
>>>> >
>>>> >OK. Sometimes I just loose track of things. Please keep me marked as
>>>> >"interested"
>>>> >
>>>> >Herb Parsons
>>>> >
>>>> >S/V O'Jure
>>>> >1976 O'Day 25
>>>> >Lake Grapevine, N TX
>>>> >
>>>> >S/V Reve de Papa
>>>> >1971 Coronado 35
>>>> >Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > >>> bill at effros.com 1/7/2006 12:07:54 pm >>>
>>>> >Herb,
>>>> >
>>>> >There was enough interest to indicate it might be possible, but not
>>>> >enough interest to do it with the boat that was sitting in Melbourne.
>>>> >Michael is suggesting an alternate approach that could work if it 
>>>> can be
>>>> >made to pay for General Boats.  It seems to me a Demo boat in Miami in
>>>> >the winter months has a lot of potential for GB, and that those
>>>> >interested in the idea could grab some sail time in the middle of the
>>>> >winter at reasonable rates that would more than pay for GB.
>>>> >
>>>> >First, we've got to find out if Elton is still talking to us, and then
>>>> >if it has left such a bad taste in his mouth that he doesn't want
>>>> >anything to do with this idea ever again, since we got him into 
>>>> this in
>>>> >the first place.
>>>> >
>>>> >Bill Effros
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Herb Parsons wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >I thought the FL Syndicate idea was dead. I guess I've missed 
>>>> some of
>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> >info. Is it still in the "trying to figure out details" stage?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Herb Parsons
>>>> > >
>>>> > >S/V O'Jure
>>>> > >1976 O'Day 25
>>>> > >Lake Grapevine, N TX
>>>> > >
>>>> > >S/V Reve de Papa
>>>> > >1971 Coronado 35
>>>> > >Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>>>bill at effros.com 1/7/2006 10:50:45 am >>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >Michael,
>>>> > >
>>>> > >I think the Florida Syndicate II idea may have a lot of merit.  
>>>> If GB
>>>
>>> is
>>>
>>>> > >still going to the Miami Boat Show, they could move a boat down 
>>>> there
>>>> > >early, rent it out around the boat show, and take it back with 
>>>> them > >(or
>>>> > >sell it).  This would be a win for everyone.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Bill Effros
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Michel Meltzer wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>It the "friction" that goes with one of these, worst yet, it 
>>>> only the
>>>> > >>starting of the saga. The issues are not so much cash, but the 
>>>> time > >>is
>>>> > >>would "suck" down. Something tells me, the boat fate is more 
>>>> tied to
>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> > >>shape of the interior, stans 30 year old spare parts bin will 
>>>> help a
>>>> > >>lot, paint the hull and fix the glass work are simple(even hull
>>>
>>> damage).
>>>
>>>> > >>If the interior is shot from the water, well that is a lot of
>>>> > >>labor......................
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>-mjm
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>I have an Idea for "FA Syndicate II", see if there is interest 
>>>> for a
>>>> > >>in FA for a few month period, like Dec to March, book some soild
>>>
>>> blocks
>>>
>>>> > >>of time, have stan move on of the demo boat down their for the > 
>>>> >>period.
>>>> > >>-mjm
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>>-----Original Message-----
>>>> > >>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>>> > >>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>>>> > >>>Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:17 PM
>>>> > >>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> > >>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] A story of a boat
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>Michael,
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>I'm glad I listened to you.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>Bill Effros
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>Michel Meltzer wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>>Just got a phone call, A boat story just came up :-)
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>Some one we all known just arrived in FA today.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>Get to the boat yard about 3pm.
>>>> > >>>>They down not have a boat lift.
>>>> > >>>>They do have a forklift, but the tongs do not say up(some 
>>>> about the
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>oil
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>>>get hot and it lowers on it own).
>>>> > >>>>This is not a boat yard, more a storage place, people are not 
>>>> use > >>>>to
>>>> > >>>>dealing with boats, a "boat" load of insurance damaged boats 
>>>> piled
>>>> > >>>>their. The seller is in RI and these guys are in FA.
>>>> > >>>>The are boat on eitherside so the forklift can not get in.
>>>> > >>>>After some harang the boat next to it was able to be moved. The
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>trailer
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>>>did not fall apart :-)
>>>> > >>>>The forklift can not get under the rhodes (not sure why).
>>>> > >>>>Someone we know is think quick :-)
>>>> > >>>>He looks around the place an finds a long length of rope, 1 
>>>> 1/2 > >>>>inch
>>>> > >>>>that look like it from 1900, smells like it from 1900, and is 
>>>> > >>>>fraded
>>>> > >>>>like it from 1900, but figures that will do.
>>>> > >>>>The bow eye is loose, can no do the Standard 3 point GB lift.
>>>> > >>>>The boat is full of water. Over weight(as in tons), will crush 
>>>> the
>>>> > >>>>trailer and the "flackly" forklift is not helping with it self 
>>>> > >>>>lower
>>>> > >>>>forks,  can not get his knife to cut the lazerret hoose.
>>>> > >>>>Drill time, Goes to the store to buy a drill, but there is a
>>>
>>> problem,
>>>
>>>> > >>>>the new drill has an empty battery. Go to customer services 
>>>> and > >>>>tell
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>the
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>>>girl he has a big problem(look on face time), after a second it
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>plugged
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>>>in and he is killing time.
>>>> > >>>>Go back to boat, it peeing.......... and getting dark...........
>>>> > >>>>Forklift guy bring in some friend, they rig the boat with rope 
>>>> from
>>>> > >>>>hell, and the get the boat onto the trailer.
>>>> > >>>>Their no back rail so has to build something to support the mast,
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>> > >>>>tie down the loose stuff.
>>>> > >>>>Loose bow eye mean he needs to but some straps and strap the boat
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>down,
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>>>6 hours later he still working on it and
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>hungry.......................
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>>>Boat in wrought shape but Stan should be able to bring it back to
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>life.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>>>All the new that fit to print -mjm
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
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>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
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>>>> > >>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>Elton is on his way to Florida to pick up the boat.  (I think.)
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>Bill Effros
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>Michel Meltzer wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>>Way not make a deal with stan, let him get it for what you payied
>>>
>>> for
>>>
>>>> > >>>>it(could even trade for work on your own boat), have Elton 
>>>> pick it
>>>
>>> up
>>>
>>>> > >>>>and you are done. KISS -mjm
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>> > >>>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>>> > >>>>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>>>> > >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 3:31 PM
>>>> > >>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> > >>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Florida Syndicate--2006
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>Sorry Luis,
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>No, it didn't go back channel, it's just that no one had time 
>>>> for
>>>
>>> it.
>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>Brad punted--he totally ran out of time to deal with the boat on
>>>
>>> any
>>>
>>>> > >>>>>level.  I bought it from him, but have had no time to follow up.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>There
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>>wasn't enough commitment in the Syndicate to justify setting it
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>up--the
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>>business model wasn't going to work.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>I am open to ideas regarding what to do with it now.  I still 
>>>> plan
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>be
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>>in Florida in roughly a month, and will deal with it then, if 
>>>> I'm
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>unable
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>>to work something out before then.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>I have been contacted back channel, but I would sooner do
>>>
>>> everything
>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>on
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>>the list, so everyone has a fair shot, and everyone sees what is
>>>> > >>>>>happening.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>Bill Effros
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>Luis Guzman wrote:
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>Happy New Year to all rhodies.
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>I spent the first day of the year sailing on a 23' Stiletto
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>Catamaran.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>>Wow, what a ride.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>We were crusing at 14 knots and at a point we reached 17 knots.
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>We met two other stilettos and raced (flew) accross the bay. 
>>>> Then
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>we
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>>all rafted together for lunch and drinks. After all the food was
>>>> >gone,
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>we
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>>raced again.
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>It was great way to start the year.
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>Luis
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>S/V PARADISE
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>P.S. What ever happened to Brad's ebay boat and to the 
>>>> syndicate?
>>>> > >>>>>>Is the syndicate talking offline?
>>>> > >>>>>>
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>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>>
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>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
>>>> > >>>>>
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