[Rhodes22-list] Batteries

r22rumrunner at aol.com r22rumrunner at aol.com
Tue Jan 31 07:25:14 EST 2006


Bill,
On Lake Hartwell there is a saying: If Bob Keller is involved, what could possibly go wrong?" Bob has a history of having things go haywire that don't normally affect the normal human being. The list is long and well documented.
 
Rummy 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:32:36 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Batteries


Bob, 
 
How did you manage to do this? Was one of the batteries damaged? Did you fail to add water to wet cells? Wet cells? Gel? AGM? 
 
Link 10. -- Now Xantrex e-meter and this will never happen. No excuse for it. 
 
I have 2 batteries connected, no switch, solar, elec start motor -- I have never, ever, needed a shore power charge, my batteries last for 6 years, I leave them in the boat summer and winter...been down this road before. 
 
KISS with a meter -- the meter tells you of a problem coming 6 months before it happens --BTW, just to add fuel to another fire, I don't replace both batteries at the same time, I mix types, (one is AGM, one is Wet) I prefer wet cells all round -- I know what the magazines and west adviser say, I know the science behind it, but I'm a curious guy so I try it out in my boat when it's not critical and what I find is that on our boats with their minimal power needs it's really tough to drain well maintained batteries. 
 
How did you do it? 
 
Bill Effros 
 
Bob Keller wrote: 
 
> I paid (overpaid?) someone to run cables from my electric start motor > to the battery under the port settee. Then we connected both > batteries together and so now I charge both batteries with the motor, > and two solar panels and even have an electric charger on board if > needed. Guess what? My batteries are currently dead... 
> 
> Anyway, I vote with Chris who used jumper cables. The cables in my > boat are big-but I don't know the size. Lots of useful information > here, isn't there? 
> Bob K 
> 
> 
>> From: Michel Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com> 
>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> 
>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] 12 volt wire gauge from OB to Cabin >> (10'maxassumed) 
>> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:33:35 -0500 
>> 
>> Been their before on the sizing, IIRC my run from the front(under the 
>> step) to the mount lungs was 16 feet each way(32 total) and the motor 
>> had #8 wire leads for 8 feet each way(meant to go on the battery) for 
>> another 16 feet worth, it a good trip,, because the batty is far away 
>> the voltage regulator also gets effected on charging(i.e. the voltage 
>> drop), after everything was said and done, #4 came out right and I used 
>> #2 just to improve performance and all but handle a dead short. NOW #2 
>> could be a PITA for getting it passed the bulkhead but I did not have 
>> that issue. Using the breaker is just cheap insurance. 
>> 
>> -MJM 
>> 
>> > -----Original Message----- 
>> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list- 
>> > bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of R22RumRunner at aol.com 
>> > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 12:47 PM 
>> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org 
>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12 volt wire gauge from OB to Cabin (10' 
>> > maxassumed) 
>> > 
>> > Bill, 
>> > Not necessarily true. Having to large a wire makes for difficult 
>> handling, 
>> > but also is a waste of money. Sizing the wire to the required project 
>> is 
>> > always 
>> > the best way to go. 
>> > 
>> > Rummy 
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